Because unlike you MLS actually cares about getting along with the rest of the soccer community and understands there's still value in the relationship between academies, colleges, and the pros?
I'm not used to all this draft nonsense but Khiry Shelton shouldn't be learning the professional game at 23 and Tommy McNamara shouldn't still be "promising" when he's the same age as Eden Hazard. There's no reason NYCFC couldn't put academy players through SUNY, which is one of the best colleges in the North-East where tuition costs $8,050 a year.
Are they taking the players 40 times and verticals at the combine? Most coaches skip it and the draft is becoming more and more irrelevant. NCAA soccer needs reform too.
There's no reason they can't. The Rapids just signed a homegrown player who just finished his senior season at Creighton and a homegrown player who just finished his junior season at Denver University. They also have a homegrown player on the roster who skipped college and went straight to being a pro player. Shockingly different players want/need different experiences before they end up as a professional soccer player.
you dont know what cameron porter wouldve done without a draft....AN MLS TEAM COULDVE STILL SIGNED HIM WITHOUT A DRAFT.....why is that so hard for people to see? NCAA soccer is not big $$$ but NCAA sports are....and in that sense, my point stands i.e. NCAA = amateur athlete exploiters.
i'm sure the NCAA and college soccer is loving how MLS is signing mostly underclassman from college now as HG players. MLS has nothing to gain from a relationship with the NCAA. Nothing. MLS will continue to sign (or not sign) NCAA players regardless of whatever rules/initiatives/agreements the NCAA puts in place. i suppose the NCAA could just stop having soccer teams altogether but if that happened there would likely be a cataclysmic event that caused all NCAA sports to be impacted. unlikely. the NCAA has a lot to gain from good vibes from MLS though. in fact, its more likely an NCAA-MLS parternership/friendship/relationship would be detrimental to MLS if anything....their interests just dont overlap enough.
looks like a good bet. how many minutes do you think NYRB 2017 draftpicks will get in MLS this season?
Would that include NYRB II? Reserve clubs are probably a more likely spot for many college players to find field time. I'd think that's both good for the clubs to have a source of reserve fodder, and the players, to be fodder with a college degree is better than just being fodder. The reality is that US sporting leagues like drafts. US universities and colleges like putting out competitive sporting teams. It's a thing in this country and it is foolish to think it isn't. Could MLS abandon the process and simply leave the field open to players whenever they chose to try to break into the professional ranks? they could. But it makes them seem like something different, and until that is actually a positive, why? And, unlike with revenue sports where too much is demanded of athletes to honestly call most of them student/athletes, soccer players maintain an 82/83 percent graduation rate, so better than basketball/football/baseball, but trailing ice hockey, water polo and lacrosse.
Again, the draft won't go away without the player's union signing off. Not having a draft provides an entry level player more right to set his MLS future than a player who is currently in the league. The union would be silly to accept, or even propose, and end to the draft without getting the same or better for its current members with respect to movement. I don't know why we overlook this.
You are not wrong.. However, proper training for Americans starts later than in Europe, so they develop later. Until recently the US Soccer Development Academy system only went down to U15/U16, it is/was only 2016 that the U12 USSDA started. Outside USSDA (and in many ways, within USSDA), who gets better training is often determined by the size of the parents' wallets rather than the potential/skill of the kid. Now that MLS is actually showing interest in training kids (at all), we should start to see players ready to play professional soccer at a younger age than before. However, that being said, unlike Europe where kids that aren't pro ready at 18 are cast adrift, the US has the added luxury of a developed NCAA system (as poor as it is) that can allow them to continue their development while also getting an education that will help them in the future if soccer doesn't pan out for them.
Yes I agree that college is a great backup plan fire those who don't make the grade. In the UK a lot of talented middle-class kids don't pursue a career in soccer because it's not a steady income. I remember that a Liverpool player used to be called "the professor" because he had a degree. Steve Coppell of Man Utd also had a degree. The fact I know that demonstrates how rare it is (or was). But for the sake of US soccer and players' careers, academies should be the be the preferred route.
This is true, but it's not going to happen until there's a lot more money in pro soccer. It costs extra to sign a player who still has college eligibility, because MLS needs to pay enough to make it financially worthwhile to give up a scholarship. That's not going to change as long as college scholarships are still being offered to talented players.
Like TFC, RBNY will have very little contribution from draft picks. Both clubs have a really good 18 and tons of academy talent. Most of their picks will start on their respective USL teams. Teams like Atlanta, Minnesota, NER, Houston, Chicago and Philly may have plenty of minutes from draft picks.
How many minutes do you think draft picks will get in MLS this season? My money is on "a plurality, when compared to the other mechanisms by which a player can enter the league."
"a plurality"??! what does that even mean? draft picks wont get much playing time compared to other mechanisms for entering the league....although some draft picks will at least see the field.
A plurality is less than a majority, but is still larger than any other component being measured. In the last presidential election, for example, many states did not have a candidate get over half of the votes. They still had a winner, but it was with a plurality, not a majority.
yes i understnd the vocabulary word 'plurality'. but my orginal question was....how many minutes will nyrb draft picks get in 2017...i put the over under before the draft at 300. a 'plurality' is not an answer to that question. its verbal diarrhea, at best. my feeling is that achowat is definitely esol...or maybe etol or efol.
One of last year's picks played every single minute in 2016 and earned an invite to the winter national team camp. Of course he probably should have qualified as a homegrown signing too, but that's another can of worms.
MLS has the draft to preserve parity and to make sure their clubs don't get into a bidding war with each other for what would be potential free agents. It will always be used in MLS.
My opinion, I think the league should only allow teams to put a homegrown claim on players that they sign from their academies and leave the unsigned players only available via the draft. Those remaining players options would be play in college, USL, NASL, overseas, or being drafted via generation adidas contract. I believe this would put the draft on equal footing with the academies by strengthening the pool of players. If a player wants to sign with a club but still wants to go to college sign him to a deal where he won't get paid but team would hold his rights when he decides to turn pro.
i dont think the draft has much of an impact on parity. look at the worst teams from last season: chicago (junhino, nikolic, dax), houston (6 central americans), columbus (euros and homegrowns).....draft picks are not a big part of any team's strategy for competing on the field/getting better....they are nice pieces to have if they work out...but they dont make any team's competitiveness really change that much. the draft is a salary suppression mechanism.
I think MLS needs to do away with the later rounds in the draft. There should only be 2 rounds. There are just too many different ways to acquire players.