Aaron Ramsey Jr thread - First Blood

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by DutchCane, Oct 6, 2011.

  1. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Dude, what you're saying is factually incorrect. Coquelin does not play as a deep destroyer. He plays as a midfielder high up the pitch and is there to setup possession. Whether or not you agree is irrelevant: that's where he plays.
     
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  2. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    the irony of this statement considering you, and only you, is arguing against a fact.

    There is no "i agree/disagree" regarding Coquelin's positioning. Its a FACT.
     
  3. footykid

    footykid Member+

    Jan 10, 2005
    Mississauga, Ont
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    ...this conversation made Jesus weep.
     
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  4. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    It's awful scenes

    I apologize
     
  5. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Coq is a ball winner not a shield

    It is obvious and wenger has said as much
     
  6. footykid

    footykid Member+

    Jan 10, 2005
    Mississauga, Ont
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I didn't see the Tuesday game, so I can't comment on that. But he's been doing well as the "first responder". If he could have a better idea of where his teammates are before he attacks he would improve immensely.
     
  7. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    The missing link now seems to be a partner to our First Responder and Xhaka. I agree Ramsey's days are numbered here I think he will go to a lesser club or overseas.
     
  8. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Don't think so. Figure Ramsey ends up in Manchester.
     
  9. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I think Ramsey is going to Man City
     
  10. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    Replacing Gundogan who's hammies are also made from the same material?

    Honestly guys i was saying a lesser club cause i can't imagine him going to a bigger club and winning things it would just be unbearable. Mind you I never begrudge any of our ex players winning but Ramsey doing it would be too much man smh
     
  11. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    Probably at Man U, City or some midtable team.

    I hope Wenger doesn't bring JW as said replacement.
     
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  12. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a new year, here's hoping this guy returns to his 2013-2014 form . . .

    [​IMG]
     
  13. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Was Pep still at Barcelona when the rumors about Ramsey and Barcelona were making the rounds a few years ago?
     
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  14. gunner0007

    gunner0007 Member+

    Jul 19, 2005
    Bahamas
    No clue. Ramsey, El Neny, Xhaka, Wilshere, Coquelin, Cazorla. Too much midfielders. Who will be leaving when next year rolls around?
     
  15. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    Interesting how Wilshere has been fit all season at Bournemouth.
     
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  16. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you implying anything? Perhaps a different manager who for months eased him back to full 90's? Or a different conditioning team/methodology?

    I think it will be more interesting in May, if he manages to go the whole season without a major injury setback, whilst playing most of there games. At that point I'd love it if someone would ask Jack whether he thought that the different "environment" was a key reason for that?
     
  17. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Obviously this is not the Jack Wilshere thread but has anyone been watching him play regularly for Bournemouth?

    I thought I would watch him more, but really haven't seen more than 30mins or so of him in action this season. I'm more curious about whether he's playing smarter on the pitch that the environment he's been exposed to at Bournemouth.

    Does he still try to dribble through traffic as the slowest player on the pitch and bomb his way into stupid challenges?
     
  18. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Jack's injuries have generally come from those stupid challenges, for thew most part they haven't been muscle pulls, so a different condition regimen probably has little to do with the fact that he has stayed healthy. Maybe Howe impressed on him that he shouldn't be dribbling into traffic.

    I believe Jack has generally been playing as a number 10 at Bournemouth and after watching Iwobi play as a number 10 yesterday, I'm not sure Jack is going to be back.
     
  19. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've only seen Jack casually as well, but come to think of it I haven't noticed this old tendency of his, which I found to be really frustrating and stupid... one of the key reasons I wasn't sad to see him go out on loan. I wonder if Eddie Howe might somehow cure him of this behavior? :)
     
  20. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    I've seen him casually too. But he hasn't been involved in goals much despite playing behind the CF. Even in games where they scored 6 goals etc.
     
  21. poetgooner

    poetgooner Member+

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Dele Alli basically turning into everything we hope Ramsey would be :(
     
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  22. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But can he play on the wing? Because playing on the wing makes you a better player
     
  23. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Ramsey had higher potential too.

    He can defend.
     
  24. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Kind of different players - Alli gets a lot further forward.

    Agree with Ramsey's higher ceiling, though:



    Compare with Alli (data from earlier in the season for apples to apples comp):



    Injuries and that goal spree in 2013 killed Ramsey's career.

    EDIT: should also include failure to build a capable midfield. Wenger's failure to build a coherent midfield since selling Fabregas and Nasri (SIX YEARS AGO!) is why he should be fired.
     
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  25. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just heard that Aaron's going to have a "small procedure" surgery done after the AC Milan match. It was deemed a "private matter" I think. So I guess it won't affect his football fitness?
     

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