Aaron Ramsey Jr thread - First Blood

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by DutchCane, Oct 6, 2011.

  1. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    u good.

    Thats just Wengerball. Its why you need athletes in defense.
     
  2. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    mebe, Prince,

    Ive realized more and more that as much as I say Wenger this or that is a weakness its true for every system and every manager. Of course because its my club I go harder on Wenger but every system has a bogey tactic that makes em look better.

    To put it in comparison its like a great defense that is constantly in trouble against a mobile/dual threat QB but kills everyone else.
     
  3. darcgun

    darcgun Member+

    Jan 11, 2008
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Coq is not a playmaker, and not box to box. Either way,Coq, Xhaka and Elneny do better in our system than Ramsey do.
     
  4. darcgun

    darcgun Member+

    Jan 11, 2008
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Coq's role is to break-up, harass, pass, and distribute. I still don't think Ramsey could do as much in our system.
     
  5. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    lol
     
  6. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    All three are defensively better than Ramsey but he is a better distributor than Coq, as more lungs to run and get into attacking positions than Xhaka and elneny.

    Ramsey is useful, but when everyonr is fit, I would start with Xhaka and Cazorla. But maybe he will be pushed to perform better with competition.
     
  7. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Have you turned into Koz?
     
  8. darcgun

    darcgun Member+

    Jan 11, 2008
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    who is that?
     
  9. R9Kevinr9

    R9Kevinr9 Member+

    Feb 2, 2007
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    Anyone else think Rambo looked like a twat with bleached hair in the euros but now think he looks great?
     
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  10. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...remier-League-Aaron-Ramsey-latest-news-quotes

     
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  11. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Still too Neal McDonough.
     
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  12. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
  13. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I'm confused. He doesn't explain his vertical axis (height) or label its dimensions and there are no dimensions on the horizontal axis. I understand the problem representing the relative percentage of 5 different sequences on the horizontal axis, but it might actually be an interesting article if he explained each cluster. I'd like to know why Nacho and Hector form their own sub cluster.











    Sent from my iPhone
     
  14. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    I thoughtt it was interesting how he was able to map the different teams passing moves. There is a link where he goes more in depth which I didnt read.
     
  15. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I wonder how much is pre planned and how much is player trust and relationship?
     
  16. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    So the article is saying that Ramsey is one of the most creative players in the league.

    Özil is in his own world but Ramsey is there with Fabregas, Yaya, Barkley, Mata all after Özil. They are all in a similar cohort, but Özil stands out.

    Also says that Giroud is in a disappointing grouping, as is Harry Kane.
     
  17. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    I'm curious as to what Ramseys role will be going forward in this particular iteration of a Wenger team. What say you?
     
  18. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    For me he has two roles

    He and Xhaka partnered, with Ramsey performing like Coquelin but providing goal scoring.

    Or he can play the playmaker role like Iwobi has, on the left to be a 3rd central.

    I want Ramsey's goals and direct runs in the team tho. He brings chaos to defenses.
     
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  19. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    Yep I think his health's prevented him from being integral in this current team will be interesting to see how he's integrated
     
  20. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Yeah

    And how good the team has started. But there is potentially a higher level.
     
  21. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    I think right now we are at a consistent level, even against Middlesborough, imho what we need is more attacking flexibility and more goals. I'd also like to vary up the attack from the back a little more and have the midfield be more practive from the back.
     
  22. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I would rather ease him in though
     
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  23. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    He's got injury issues so hopefully he is eased in don't think he'll be ready for 90 against Spurs
     
  24. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--


    This is where Coleman used him. He just like Pogba.
     
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