News: A Long, Strange Trip - 2018 DCU Season Thread

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  1. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
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    DC United
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    United States
    Me, for example:)
     
  2. DCUSA

    DCUSA Member+

    Jan 14, 2006
    Virginia
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    DC United
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    United States
    #277 DCUSA, Mar 15, 2018
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    Sean Johnson is really frigging good. He's had some howlers, but so has Hamid. I'd have to look it up, but I wouldnt be surprised if he led the league in gaa last season.

    Edit: No, not number one, top ten (Melia first). He was fourth in save percentage behind Melia, Hamid, and Blake.
    Also, Bendik led MLS in saves!
     
  3. Eastern Bear

    Eastern Bear Member+

    Feb 27, 1999
    Great Falls, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Hamid at his best was tops in the league. Unfortunately, Bill was injured a lot and played inconsistently.
     
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  4. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The thing with GAA is that a mediocre keeper can benefit from a very well organized defense and with good positioning can keep the ball out of the net. We've not had the good, well organized defense for a long time so Hamid had to stand on his head to keep us in matches.

    GAA doesn't tell you everything but Saves/ShotsOnTarget is probably a better metric.

    james
     
  5. Adler

    Adler Member+

    Aug 20, 2003
    das Schloss Adler
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    DC United
    Aren't there training ground drills or some crap that the team could do to practice passing into space?

    Wait, let me check YouTube . . .
     
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  6. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Exactly. Tim Melia won GOTY last season and Robles the year before that IIRC. Neither is in the top third of the league IMO.

    The only thing that tells you is that Orlando's defense was terrible.
     
  7. shammypants

    shammypants Member+

    Oct 9, 2013
    Club:
    DC United
    Bolivia has a shitty team
     
  8. Eastern Bear

    Eastern Bear Member+

    Feb 27, 1999
    Great Falls, VA
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    DC United
    Could they beat DCU... coached by Olsen?
     
  9. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
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    DC United
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    United States
    #284 onefineesq, Mar 15, 2018
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    Well then let's use that. In 2017, the guy was tied for 12th in GAA among all keepers that played in double digit games (the metric you don't like), but he was also only tied for 10th among that same group in save % (the metric you prefer). Ousted is nowhere near a top 5 keeper in the league in 2018. I personally think it is delusional to believe that Ousted is going to be a difference maker for this team, this season.
     
  10. NicktheGreek

    NicktheGreek Member+

    Feb 15, 2001
    As anyone who has ever visited a major zoo can attest there are varying degrees of shitty
     
  11. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    Yeah, but Jamaica called up Oniel Fisher, just sayin'.
     
  12. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Both those national teams are a full level below the US.
     
  13. NicktheGreek

    NicktheGreek Member+

    Feb 15, 2001
    Until July 15th the world of international soccer is going to be divided into Them that got and Them that ain't.
    Bolivia, Jamaica and the USA are among them that ain't and where they are relative each other non contestant is moot. Beauty is on July 16th it starts all over again and everyone gets a shot
     
  14. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Gibraltar
    There is no doubt in my mind that Ousted is well ahead of Bendik and Johnson. I'd put Ousted roughly on par with Luis Robles and Andre Blake. Although Blake is not done developing and could surpass Ousted soon. As for Steffen, I need to see another season out of him before I rate him. He really only emerged towards the end of last season. Most people would probably argue that Brad Guzan is the best keeper in the East, but he needs a a little more time before he washes that Aston Villa stench off of him.

    Mind you these are my current ratings. I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the year Ousted will be down to 5th or 6th best keeper in the East. DC has a knack for taking good players and gradually drawing them down into mediocrity or worse ...
     
  15. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
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    DC United
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    United States
    #290 onefineesq, Mar 15, 2018
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    To further illustrate the Ousted point, in 2016 Ousted was tied for 18th in GAA and tied for 16th in save percentage, of all keepers who played in double digit MLS games. Ousted by the numbers, is an absolutely middling starting keeper, AT BEST, over the last 2 years. But we are seriously debating whether he is one of the best keepers in the league in 2018? We have been so beaten down by mediocrity that we can no longer recognize the difference between average and good play. I'll let it go now before I have an aneurysm.
     
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  16. DCUSA

    DCUSA Member+

    Jan 14, 2006
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're living in the past, brother. Johnson is entering his prime at 28 and was better than Ousted statistically as recently as last season, without arguably the best center back tandem in front of him (who's better than Parker and Waston? I'll say maybe Marshall/Torres, but certainly no one from NYC qualifies)
    Since there's no doubt in your mind, this is a pointless exercise, but I can't help myself.
    The stench of that Olympic qualifying debacle still haunts Johnson, it's unfair and myopic. He's very good at shot stopping, top five statistically.
     
  17. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Gibraltar
    I thought Johnson had his first above average season in a long time last year. For me it doesn't erase some of the struggles he had towards the end in Chicago. I want to see one more good season from him before I put him in that top tier of goalkeepers.

    The thing I don't like about Johnson is that he's a very passive goalkeeper. Doesn't command his box well. Doesn't lead the defense. But again, last year was a big step forward for him. His command of the box was still lacking, but he really cleaned up the little details his game. When you don't make mistakes, you earn the respect of your team mates. And you end up leading from behind by example even if you're not necessarily vocal and aggressive.

    Johnson is getting to that age where goalkeepers start to hit their prime. He's one of the keepers that I think could make a case for stepping ahead of Ousted by the end of the season if he continues his positive trajectory. But it's still a bit premature for me.
     
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  18. ejs1111

    ejs1111 Member

    Aston Villa | DC United
    Mar 1, 2018
    Maryland, USA
    As a Villa fan I can tell you Guzan is a below average/poor keeper. I watched him for many years. He was above average at shot stopping in his prime. But he was extremely poor at distribution, poor at commanding his box, and poor at positioning. His shot stopping ability 'covered up' his other deficiencies. He is now past his prime and can no longer stop shots acrobatically like he used to- which makes his other flaws much more noticeable.

    Guzan played during poor ownership (former Cleveland Browns Randy Lerner) and Lerner put a 'stench' on everything. RL did a couple good things in the beginning with renovations and the academy. RL is gone now and Villa has spent the past 2-3 years washing away the dirt from his failed ownership. Guzan was a good person and teammate, unfortunately not a good enough keeper for the EPL at Villa.
     
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  19. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    Stieber has been called up by Hungary for a couple of friendlies and will also miss the Columbus game.
     
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  20. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Makes the lineup decision easier.
    Acosta starts.
     
  21. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Was there really a tough decision? Acosta's preseason form and his short cameo last week give me hope that he can give us a boost/
     
  22. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
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    United States
    I was mostly kidding, although it is true I think that the US (at least player pool wise is well ahead of Bolivia and Jamaica).
    https://www.socceramerica.com/publi...k-us-men-will-open-three-game-series-aga.html

    But I guess we'll find out. When Bolivia plays at sea level, they aren't that great. At altitude they can beat anyone.
     
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  23. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure. I think Stieber is good, but he hasn't done much so far. Nor have Arriola or Asad really. I think it'll take some time for these guys to figure each other out, but I think they can be a good attack. If only we had a really good striker to keep teams honest.
     
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  24. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
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    DC United
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    Gibraltar
    Stieber doesn't really fit the 4-1-4-1. Stieber wants a more expansive game where he gets more space, more time on the ball and he has runners making runs for his accurate long range passing.

    This formation Olsen is working with is more ideal for Acosta. I think Asad and Arriola also blend into the 4-1-4-1 pretty well. In this formation ideally you'd want the left winger to be the guy making aggressive runs behind the fullback. You want him to be the outlet, not the distributor. We'd be better off with more speed and strength than what Stieber possesses.

    The only solution to this is if we can get Stieber and Acosta together playing the central attacking midfield positions. You might sacrifice a little on defense, but you may unlock the attacking chemistry we've been lacking. The two players offer a nice contrast ... one is a dribbler and the other is a passer/shooter. Then you have Asad and Arriola on the wings. I think they both have the aggression and physical ability to get behind the defense.
     
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  25. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This
     
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