NSR: A gun on Every Corner: Discuss the NRA, Gun Ownership and All Those Non-Mass Shootings..

Lots of guns. Lots of outlaw bikers. Alcohol. What could possibly go wrong?
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Waco-Shooting-Near-Twin-Peaks-In-Waco-304043711.html

 

Well, for a start, they could've killed a few people who were NOT outlaw bikers...

 

Did I need to post in italics, to indicate sarcasm?
In any event, aside from the staff, the place appeared full of bikers. The parking lot was full of motorcycles, I saw only one yellow car there. Now, who was driving that?

 

Did I have to blatantly type: "You know what did go wrong? They only killed nine of themselves for one thing..."

 

It's not an experiment. These are 2 unrelated videos, in different states (Oregon & Nevada) spliced together.
The second man is lucky that the Dr. Pepper truck didn't backfire, as the officer pulled up.
His videos have been on-line for 2 years:


In the second video, the initial officer says that there was a citizen complaint. It's unclear if that was called in, or he was flagged down by somebody.

 

This doesn't prove anything we already know. the brotha was stupid he lucky he wasn't shot.

 

If Juliet had a gun, Romeo would have been shot dead when wooing her.

http://billingsgazette.com/news/nat...cle_790d515b-e879-5df2-b09a-8c47c97e41c1.html

Life is like The Onion. Well, at least the Second Amendment life.

 

Who shoots their bartender?
http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/hamilton-bartender-shot-over-wrong-drink-order/32949116
If anything, the barkeep should flag the customer, for ordering a Michelada in Montana.

 

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The FBI stats include Hispanics in the white totals, which skews the numbers. The quoted passage also fails to note that the b-on-b percentage is 91%, down from the usual 93%.
Even so, those stats report that 542 'whites' were killed by non-whites, 248 blacks killed by non-blacks.
That's more than double, 219%, if you haven't got a calculator on your computer. Perhaps all those whites are being murdered by Asians.

 

Given that there are 6x as many white people as black in the U.S., this argument doesn't accomplish what the author believes it does.

 

The 7th Doctor Who got killed (until being reincarnated) by a San Francisco Chinatown gang. Seems like a realistic probability to me.

 

Might be an anomaly:
https://www.baycitizen.org/news/policing/african-americans-arrested-high-rates/

 

I'm not buying it. The Chinese are the true threat. I saw it on Doctor Who, and who knows the U.S. better than the Brits?

 

Regenerated, not reincarnated.

There, the geek double-header: pedantically corrected someone on the internet ... about Doctor Who


I'm really not all that familiar with the 7th Doctor.

 

Yeah true. Funny how the words are so similar, and the action is too. I couldn't be bothered with the 6th, 7th, and 8th doctors. I know the rest, to some extent.

 

A couple of problems here. First, "hispanic" is not an ethnicity the way you are using white and black. It means a person from or descended from a Spanish speaking country, but I can assure you that there are countries like Argentina that are extremely white . . . and hispanic. You can thank Julio Roca for making the statistics easier to hash through in Argentina. In fact the US Census Bureau specifically states that a "Hispanic" can be of any race or ethnicity. So, does the FBI stats include black Hispanics? If not, then I'm not sure why you would exclude white people who happen to be Hispanic from the white totals.

Second, while you have your calculator out, you might punch in how many total white people there are compared to non-white. That makes your 219% finding pretty meaningless.

 

Well, not really. All things being equal, one would expect a group that makes up 15% of the U.S. to kill exactly the same number of people in the remaining 85%, as the 85% group does of the 15%. If murders were random, without respect to the descriptive factor used to create the two groups, that's how the numbers would play out.

I don't wish to add to this particular discussion besides that; I don't have much interest. But I did wish to touch on how the numbers should play out.

 

I don't think I get your point, but I'm not a numbers guy. There are significantly more white people available to be murdered, correct? And on the flip side, it all white murders were completely random, then there are a whole lot less black targets. So, if there were 100 black shooters killing in an absolutely random fashion, they would kill 85 non-blacks (no idea how many would be Asian, Indian, etc.) You would also expect 100 random white shooters to kill a total of 15 black victims.

 

Not sure how much thought you gave to all that, but in the time it took you to write it, you could have googled 'US Hispanics by county of origin':
http://www.pewhispanic.org/2011/05/...-counts-for-nation-top-30-metropolitan-areas/
and found Argentines in 12th place, at 1/2 of one percent. 32 million Mexicans.

More nonsense. The smaller percentage of blacks kills twice as many whites, a ratio that also applies to other violent crime categories. That may not mean much to you, but it means something to a lot of other people.

 

Ah yes. The dirty brown Mexicans, how could I be so silly? Perhaps your delicate sensibilities will be soothed by the fact that as much as 20% of the Mexican population is entirely white and of European decent. A very large number are also "mestiso" with a large percentage of their make up being white. How about Puerto Ricans? Do they fit your definition of brown Hispanics? Because more than 75% of them are white and most of the remainder are of African decent. Cuba? 7 million white, 3 million mestiso and 1 million black. Of course, you could have found all of this on Google in a few minutes as well. It's a shame you didn't actually know that our neighboring countries (and even one United States territory) have diverse ethnic backgrounds, not unlike our own, but instead jump to the conclusion that all "Hispanics" are alike, and all save Argentines are not white. Perhaps that is why our government keeps statistics (that you cite) on Hispanics meaning only that they come from a Spanish speaking country and not a particular ethnicity.

You know what means something to me? Tell me about the economic backgrounds of people killing people. Tell me about the quality of their schools. Tell me what advantages or disadvantages they have in life. I'm guessing that a lot of the violence you reference is an economic problem, but it is sooooooo much easier to simply blame "the blacks."

 

You prefer that they both ended up dead?