5 MLS Teams in Soccerex Football Finance 100 Top 30

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  1. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Why isn't Atlanta on the list?
     
  2. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They are probably working of the 2016 annual reports which would have been published in 2017.
     
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  3. rocketeer22

    rocketeer22 Member+

    Apr 11, 2000
    Oakton,VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Initially I was only thinking of EPL. Three of the top 16 slots on the list have controlling interests by Americans. However, a significant reason for the Glazers or Stan Kroenke to invest in EPL in the first place was the brand and competitiveness of the particular club. But, I also know that much was made of increased debt and restructuring of debt.

    MLS of course has its own foreign investment.
     
  4. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MLS_franchise_owners
     
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  5. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The list is likely going off of the net worth of the ownership group. RBNY's owner's have a ton of money, but it's not really close to the amount of money the ownership group of NYCFC has.
     
  6. scoachd1

    scoachd1 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    Southern California
    In case you are interested below are the approximate factors they use
    0.2184% A) Playing Assets
    0.2180% B) Fixed Assets (i.e. team’s stadiums, training centres and other properties)
    0.2750% C) Cash in the bank
    0.2733% D) Owner Potential Investment*
    0.1485% E) Net Debt

    A FFI Score + B FFI Score + C FFI Score** + D FFI Score** – E FFI Score

    European teams have focused on A, while MLS teams have focused on B and getting ownership groups with high C & D. This has provided the league with a strong foundation which has allowed them to start increasing investment in A, at much lower financial risk.
     
  7. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Red Bull Arena holds 26,765.
     
  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mmm. The more I look at the report the less I trust it.

    They must have mixed up NYRB with another team (bit not RB Leipzig).

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  9. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm pretty sure either Seattle's owners own the stadium, which is the same as the team owning the stadium, or they control the stadium via binding contracts. (This is a pretty typical arrangement in US pro sports as it allows the franchise to avoid paying property tax on their venue.)

    The latter means the Sounders can't sell the stadium, but whatever contract they have with the actual owners is one hell of an asset.
     
  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's publicly owned but if the Seahawks threatened to leave Seattle you never know what the state would do.
     
  11. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    CenturyLink Field is owned by the state, but it and the attached convention center and concert venue are operated by First & Goal, which owns the Seahawks and are minority owners in the Sounders. However, that minority ownership does not result in any additional revenue to the Sounders for non-game day events, nor does it equate to any extra availability of cash. Since the Sounders took over their own business operations, First & Goal are, at best, a silent partner in the Sounders and, at worst, a drain as they get a cut of the Sounders profit, but don't necessarily re-invest it in the team like the other owners do.
     
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  12. rocketeer22

    rocketeer22 Member+

    Apr 11, 2000
    Oakton,VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Player payroll would be significantly off as well.
     
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  13. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Regardless of whether you use dollars, pounds or Euros, no MLS club pays players near 637 million. Paul Berry ruled out Leipzig, and Red Bull Salzburg can't hold 47,000 either.
     
  14. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Don't underrate BWP!
     
  15. Namrog The Just

    Namrog The Just Member+

    L.A. Galaxy
    United States
    Jul 2, 2007
    Baltimore County, Maryland
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They just got the wrong NY team. I think it's rather obvious that they are referencing the Cosmos.

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  16. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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