3. Liga [R]

Discussion in 'Germany' started by Hobo, Jul 23, 2010.

  1. CCinGermany

    CCinGermany Member

    May 3, 2006
    Chicagoland
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Definitely. Can we look at this as reflecting the fact that that smaller clubs are now mostly living within their means?
     
  2. HSV-Jung

    HSV-Jung Member

    Jun 15, 2010
    Frankfurt
    Club:
    Hamburger SV
    Yeah, not to forget the boasting of the first team fans of those clubs about how awesome their youth program is.
     
  3. "Eisenfuß" Eilts

    Jul 1, 2005
    In the sun ;)
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    #478 "Eisenfuß" Eilts, May 27, 2014
    Last edited: May 27, 2014
    It depends on the division. The RL West had a lot of strong club first teams in it.
    1. Fortuna Köln 76
    2. Sportfreunde Lotte 69
    3. RW Oberhausen 69
    4. Viktoria Köln 65
    5. Sportfreunde Siegen 64

    Then the reserve teams of Schalke, M'Gladbach and Leverkusen follow and these clubs have good youth programs. I hope Fortuna can beat Bayern II. Last season Lotte was so unlucky with drawing RB Leipzig and then losing against them after extra-time in the 2nd leg.
     
  4. Lupin III

    Lupin III Member+

    Mar 17, 2011
    Denmark
    Club:
    Brøndby IF
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Arh all 5 clubs you mentioned are among my dislikes.......... Give me Alemannia, Essen, Uerdingen, Offenbach, Oldenburg, Trier, Ulm, Hessen Kassel, Holstein Kiel, Waldhof Mannheim, Magdeburg, Wuppertaler SV, Lubeck etc. those kind of clubs ;)
     
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  5. "Eisenfuß" Eilts

    Jul 1, 2005
    In the sun ;)
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Wuppertaler SV failed promotion vs. a the village club called Hönnepel-Niedermörmter (even Germans can't spell that name). Arndt Zeigler made a short documentation about the match in his football show:
     
  6. "Eisenfuß" Eilts

    Jul 1, 2005
    In the sun ;)
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Promotion play-off results first leg:
    Neustrelitz 0-2 Mainz 05 II
    Großaspach 0-0 Wolfsburg II
    Fortuna Köln 1-0 Bayern II
     
  7. goindownsouth

    goindownsouth Member+

    Jun 19, 2006
    Central, NJ
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    As an aside, it surprised me just how hard and fast Regensburg fell after their promotion to 2.BL. Now they seem stuck just as they were before.
     
  8. "Eisenfuß" Eilts

    Jul 1, 2005
    In the sun ;)
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    I am not surprised, Regensburg only has a small budget (in 2. BL they had 3.5 million € and decreased it when they relegated). In comparison 3. Liga top clubs like RB Leipzig (15 million € budget) or Heidenheim (9 million €) and even midfield clubs like Halle (5.5 million €) have economically much better conditions to form strong teams. In the season Regensburg got promoted they had the smallest budget in 3. Liga, but with Markus Weinzierl a fantastic coach, who shows his qualities now at Augsburg in the Bundesliga.

    I wish Regensburg all the best (because it is a nice city), maybe they have luck and find another good coach or like Darmstadt (Stroh-Engel 27 goals in 34 matches) players, who join and play instantly much better than expected and improve the whole team.
     
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  9. goindownsouth

    goindownsouth Member+

    Jun 19, 2006
    Central, NJ
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Agreed on all counts. Regensburg had a good mix of players when they were promoted, but then it all started to fall apart. Markus Weinzierl was a damn fine manager who then left for FCA, I believe.

    Also, money as you alluded to, has always been an issue with Regensburg. One never knows what can happen, perhaps lightening can be caught in a bottle.
     
  10. "Eisenfuß" Eilts

    Jul 1, 2005
    In the sun ;)
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Promotion results 2nd leg:
    FC Bayern II 2-1 Fortuna Köln (Köln advances 2-2 on aggregate by the away goal rule)
    FSV Mainz 05 3-1 Neustrelitz (Mainz reserve advances 5-1 over both legs)
    Wolfsburg II 0-1 Großaspach (Großaspach advances 1-0 over both legs).
     
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  11. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    I don't really need to go beyond the first paragraph to disagree with random internet blogger guy. Cottbus and Bielefeld stronger than Heidenheim and Leipzig? Probably not. I kinda like how Fortuna Cologne are now a "historical side"... things have turned so bad, that one of Germany's original plastic clubs is looking good now :p.
     
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  13. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its good to disagree, especially when it comes to predictions ;)
     
  14. goindownsouth

    goindownsouth Member+

    Jun 19, 2006
    Central, NJ
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Nice how Regensburg - admittedly not a very good side this year - put it to Duisburg - one of the writer's favorites for the top.
     
  15. Zak1FCK

    Zak1FCK Member+

    Aug 23, 2005
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    FC Kaiserslautern
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have never been impressed with their analysis.
     
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  16. Lupin III

    Lupin III Member+

    Mar 17, 2011
    Denmark
    Club:
    Brøndby IF
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    True I always considered Fortuna Koln being one club I didnt like because of plastic, yet the best among the promoted clubs this season :cry:
     
  17. CCinGermany

    CCinGermany Member

    May 3, 2006
    Chicagoland
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You put that a lot more diplomatically than I would have.
     
  18. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This thread will work well. Just a little edit to the thread title! :)
     
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  19. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nice choreo by Dynamo Dresden fans in the Sachsenderby vs Chemnitzer FC.

     
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  20. Doc_Aeppler

    Doc_Aeppler Member

    May 27, 2003
    Frankfurt
    Lilienfans showing RB the red card! :thumbsup:

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    Great season for them so far. hope they can keep it up...
     
  21. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    The 3.Liga standings right now. Quite the battle for the promotion spots. After 17 matches, currently only 3 points separates 1st-10th.

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  22. Lupin III

    Lupin III Member+

    Mar 17, 2011
    Denmark
    Club:
    Brøndby IF
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    I think its a global tendency that the tables are much closer in lower leagues than in top leagues....... because clubs not playing Champions League :cool:
     
  23. goindownsouth

    goindownsouth Member+

    Jun 19, 2006
    Central, NJ
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Wow... All but a certainty that Jahn Regensburg will be relegated to Regionaliga. I never would have suspected that, even with all of the financial struggles of the club over the years and considering their brief stint in the 2.BL. Just sad.
     
  24. "Eisenfuß" Eilts

    Jul 1, 2005
    In the sun ;)
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Bielefeld and Duisburg reached promotion one match day before end of the season, congrats.
    Thereby Bielefeld only played 2-2 vs. Regensburg, but profited that Duisburg (2nd) and Kiel (3rd) faced each other. Kiel had the better start and led 1-0 by a direct freekick (Kegel, 10.). But Duisburg answered with a double pack by Hajri (20.) and Gardawski (21.). And Gardawski even scored the final 3-1 before half-time (27.). Kiel will make a promotion play-off vs. the 16th from 2. Bundesliga.

    In the bottom of the table Regensburg (28) and Dortmund II (36) are relagated. The 3rd relegated team will be Unterhaching (39, away at Erfurt), Rostock (41, away at Dresden) or Mainz II (41, home vs. Chemnitz).
     
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  25. goindownsouth

    goindownsouth Member+

    Jun 19, 2006
    Central, NJ
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    What an awful, awful fate for SSV Jahn Regensburg. Only a short time removed from 2.BL, the club's financial woes clearly drive their issues on the pitch. Just so sad.
     

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