2020 Roster Thread

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  1. Big J 0526

    Big J 0526 Member+

    Columbus Crew SC
    United States
    Sep 8, 2010
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gonna miss the scrapper.
     
  2. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    that's not confirmed, we just hope we'll be exempt

    They've done it that way the past few drafts, so hopefully they'll continue. But this is MLS.
     
  3. B-M-T

    B-M-T Member

    Jun 23, 2001
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know of any team starting in 2021 that would be needing players ;)
     
  4. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    The one young player who showed any form of improvement under Caleb Porter in season 1 is now gone. Caleb Porter enters season 2 as head coach of the Columbus Crew with zero positive accomplishments.

    But at least he said he expects Artur and Will Trapp to score more.

    It's gonna be a long four years....
     
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  5. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whatever.

    Keita & Maloney.

    Yes, Argudo was good value. But he also had all of one goal (I think that is right) and was firmly slated in as the #4 winger.

    Hardly cause for the sky falling. Yeesh.
     
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  6. 110toyourleft

    110toyourleft Member+

    Jan 27, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hate losing players to expansion
     
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  7. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pedro Santos, Waylon Francis returning to near 2015 all star form, Buba Keita getting minutes as a starter, getting Luis Diaz integrated and playing well immediately.

    More than just Luis Argudo’s 5 game hot stream and subsequent benching.
     
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  8. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I forgot about Diaz. How dumb am I?
     
  9. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Pedro Santos isn’t young.

    Waylon Francis near all star form?!?! For ********s sake Kyle. You are trying way too hard.

    Keita getting minutes as a starter. After Sauro left, and sometimes ahead of Josh Williams. I guess. Though not nearly enough. And notably, you didn’t say he improved. I agree.

    We spent a sum of money on a winger to upgrade where Porter was getting minimal production. Diaz acclimated. True. Is that credit to Porter? If so the lashings you gave Mokhtar throughout the season show that Porter failed to acclimate him.

    I’ll give you Maloney. He’s a feel good story for a 22nd place team. Like a September call up for a baseball team that’s already 29 games under .500 who hits .270 and steals a few bases. The fans scream WE CAN BUILD ON THIS. No. Not really....
     
  10. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew

    Try to keep up. The sky isn’t falling because of one player. It’s the entire body of work.
     
  11. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ArgUdO Is gOnE!!

    DDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM!!!!
     
  12. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Willfull ignorance, purposely missing the point, caps lock, failure to address to the point at hand and/or acknowledge the errors in the previous post.

    This is "dialogue" from our esteemed moderator.

    To think you once showed the potential of a near all star form Waylon Francis in 2015. And now, this.....

    Woof.
     
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  13. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    Truth but when you are the 22nd best team you have more dead weight than quality.
     
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  14. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Farewell Luis Argudo edition.

    I cannot wait for expansion to be over.

    Probably need another player all through MF now that the Swiss army knife is gone. DP CAM, winger, CM.

    Defense looks set: Afful, Mensah, Keita, Valenzuela, Cadden, Williams, Francis. Bringing back Maloney would also be nice.

    A 3rd keeper somewhere.

    Not sure what is up with Hamilton. But he, Romario, or a someone else for a 3rd/4th striker is needed.

    A. Rules & Regs (2019)
    Link:
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/league/official-rules/mls-roster-rules-and-regulations



    B. General Stuff:

    1. Salary Cap = $4,240,000 (2019)

    A) On Budget: Only Senior Roster Spots count against the Cap
    B) Players on Season Ending Injury list also count vs. the Cap, though one replacement player may be off cap under certain circumstances.
    C) Up to 20 Senior Roster spots. 18 must be filled. Min budget charge is made if spots 19 & 20 are not filled.
    D) Max budget charge is $530,000. Allocation $$ and DP rules can reduce a player's budget charge below their listed salary number.
    E) Off-Budget: Supplemental (21-24) and Reserve (25-30) Rosters do not count towards the salary cap.

    II. Estimated Roster Compositions
    1. Senior Roster: 21/18-20 Players:

    A) 20 Player max on Senior Roster, subject to Season Ending Injury List, Disabled List, and Loan exceptions.
    B) Generally, this is the highest 20 paid players, though HG players and GA players can be on other rosters.

    Rank, Player, Pos, Age,DOB, HT, WT, Nat, Desig(s), Base $$/Guar $$
    1, Zardes, F, 28, 9/2/91, 6'1", 187, USA, DP, $1,421,667/$1,471,667
    2. Mensah, D, 29, 7/13/90, 6'2", 183, Ghana, GC: $800,004/$894,004
    3. Santos, M, 31, 4/22/88, 5'6", 139, Portugal, DP, Int#1: $817,560/$864,560
    4. Nagbe, CM, 29, 7/19/90, 5'9", 165, USA/Liberia, $665,500/$665,500.
    5. Trapp, M, 26, 1/15/93, 5'8", 150, USA, $549,996/$593,746
    6. Mokhtar, M, 28, 8/29/91, 5'9", 159, Morocco, Int#2, $459,996/$533,845.
    7. de Lima (Artur), M, 23, 3/11/96, 5'11", 154, Brazil, GC: $360,000/$411,633
    8. Afful, D, 33, 7/24/86, 5'6", 135, Ghana, GC, $288,100/$363,800
    9. Room, GK, 30, 2/6/89, 6'3", 179, Curacao & Netherlands, Int#3, $300k/$354,694.
    10. Diaz, M, 20, 12/6/98, 5'11", 159, Costa Rica, Int#4, YDP, $300k/$333,900.
    11. Valenzuela, D, 21, 8/13/98, 5'6", 145, Argentina, GC, Int#5: $290,000/$321,300
    12. J. Williams, D, 31, 4/18/88, 6'2", 185, USA: $215,000/$215,000
    13. Jimenez, D/M, 30, 11/3/88, 5'9", 145, USA: $200,000/$200,000
    14. W. Francis, D, 29, 9/20/90, 5'9", 160, Costa Rica, GC, $160,000/$199,167
    15. Abubakar, D, 24, 12/25/94, 6'0", 180, Ghana, GC, $135,000/$144,398
    16. Open (Cadden?)
    17. Open (Kempin?)
    18. Open
    19. Open
    20. Open
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    2. Supplemental Roster: 5 of 4 Players (21-24)

    A) Up to 4 players. Do not count vs. salary cap. Subject to SE Injury Replacement, Disabled List, and Loan exceptions.
    B) May include Senior Minimum Budget Players ($70,250), Generation Adidas players (who may earn more), and Homegrown Players (who may earn more).

    Rank, Player, Pos, Age,DOB, HT, WT, Nat, Desig(s), Base $$/Guar $$

    21. JJ Williams, F, 21, 1/4/98, 6'3", 200, USA, GA, $95,000/$149,750
    22. Kempin, GK, 26, 4/8/93, 6'1", 175, USA: $71,664/$71,664.
    23. Open
    24. Open
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    3. Reserve Roster (25-28)

    A) Players must be either earning the Reserve Minimum Salary ($56,250) or be Homegrown Players earning more via the HG Subsidy.
    B) Players must be 24 or younger during the League YEAR. As determined by Year of birth, not date (I am not sure what this means exactly, is someone who turns 25 during the season eligible or not?).
    C) Senior Min Players & GA Players cannot occupy these spots.

    Rank, Player, Pos, Age,DOB, HT, WT, Nat, Desig(s), Base $$/Guar $$
    25. Cadden, D/M, 23, 9/19/96, 6'0", 168, Scotland, Int#7, $56,250/$56,250
    26. Open
    27. Open
    28. Open

    Cadden could be on the senior or supplemental roster.
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    4. HomeGrown Reserve Roster (29-30)
    A) Must be Homegrown Players.
    B) Same Budget & Age rules as Reserve Roster 25-28 players.

    Rank, Player, Pos, Age,DOB, HT, WT, Nat, Desig(s), Base $$/Guar $$
    29. Keita, D, 19, 4/6/00, 6'2, 180, USA, HG, $90,000/$110,000
    30. Open
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    7. Designated Players: 2 of 3

    Zardes, Santos.

    Though both could be bought down with TAM.
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    8. International Roster Spots: 6 of 7 (lost one in Nagbe deal).

    Santos, Valenzuela, Diaz, Room, Mokhtar, Cadden.
    ------------

    9. Green Card Holders = 5
    Mensah, Abubakar, W. Francis, de Lima (Artur), Afful.
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    10. Negotions/ Decisions pending = 4.

    1. Hamilton, F, 23, 3/17/96, 6'0", 185, Canada, HGI, $124,992/$137,659
    2. R. Williams, F, 25, 8/15/94, 5'11", 170, Jamaica, GC, $78,650/$78,650
    3. Maloney, D, 24, 5/18/95, 5'6", 145, USA: $70,250/$70,250
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    Any corrections, comments, etc are always welcome.
     
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  15. FootyRef

    FootyRef Member+

    Apr 13, 2007
    Westerville, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What are Negotions and why does it equal four when three are listed?
     
  16. DAK77

    DAK77 Member+

    Nov 10, 2008
    Merion Village, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. 110toyourleft

    110toyourleft Member+

    Jan 27, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes but I was speaking in general - our competitor improved their team at our expense (yes, I know we get some allocation money, but it is our expense).

    And to speak specifically, the "deadweight" is offloaded prior to the draft (the roster decisions to extend or not renew). And in this case, the "...one young player who showed any form of improvement under Caleb Porter in season 1" sounds not like dead weight.
     
  18. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  19. TRUJDUB

    TRUJDUB Member+

    Nov 22, 2015
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
  20. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree it's dumb until and unless we bring in an attacking player of the caliber that other contenders have. I'm also concerned about centerback, and I would love to get confirmation that Milton will ready to play in Feb/March (I have my doubts that he'll be fully fit). But, all in all, we look to be vastly improved compared to last year, even now. Among the league's elite? I just don't see it yet. I mean, yeah, it's about the players, and we're not there yet. But we still do need to see proof that Porter can get this team playing like a contender. In that regard, my soul isn't as dark as Hang's or Bach's, but I still need to see some proof before I'll allow myself to believe that Porter can get us to the promised land.
     
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  21. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Mensah probably belongs in section 7, DPs who could be bought down.
     
  22. speedye1

    speedye1 Member+

    Dec 31, 2002
    He said we are a dark horse, not a favorite.
     
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  23. hungariansteven

    hungariansteven Member+

    May 29, 2012
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    And it's a decent take. We had a lot of guys miss time from injuries, we get a full season with Room and Diaz, we add Nagbe, etc.

    I also assume they looked at the bad teams from this past season, ignored FCC because LOL, and boom, we were selected as a potential darkhorse.
     
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  24. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    You'd typically pick a dark horse from a fringe playoff team or a team that didn't make the playoffs. We finished 22nd last year. We are one of maybe 8 teams that some journalist would throw a dart at and say, "DARK HORSE!!!"
     
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  25. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We got better when Diaz showed up. We got better still when Diaz started to get the hang of this league. We got better when Santos figured out and adjusted to his new role in the post-Higuain system.

    A full preseason for Santos, Diaz, and Nagbe together could see us have a much better 2020.
     
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