2020 Concacaf Men's Olympic Qualifiers [R]

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  1. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought I saw a topic about this, but I can't find one. Maybe it was in another forum. Of the 25 Caribbean members of FIFA, Wikipedia says 16 entered. However, https://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=66399.0 says that Trinidad and Tobago withdrew due to $5,000,000 of debt and having bank accounts frozen. The TTFA said they want to focus on eight other competitions. The government complained that the TTFA should participate. The Caribbean has four groups of four, and the group winners will play for the two spots in the Concacaf Men's Olympic Qualifiers. The groups are:

    A: Jamaica, St. Kitts and Nevis, Guyana, and Dominica
    B: Trinidad and Tobago?, Barbados, Cuba, and U.S. Virgin Islands
    C: Haiti, Suriname, Grenada, and Cayman Islands
    D: Antigua and Barbuda, Dominican Republic, St. Lucia, and Puerto Rico

    The Group A winner will play the Group D winner, and the Group B winner will play the Group C winner. Those will be in one game. Wikipedia says the Group Stage will be on July 17, 19, and 21, but doesn't give sites.

    Central America will have two leg series rather than groups. Belize did not enter. Costa Rica vs. Guatemala, Honduras vs. Nicaragua, and El Salvador vs. Panama will be done in two legs.

    The three North American teams, three Central American teams, and two Caribbean teams will play in the 2019 Concacaf Men's Olympic Qualifying Championship in Costa Rica from October 3 through 15. The tournament did not always have one host. The past six tournaments had one host, with four in USA, one in Canada, and one in Mexico. This is the first time it will be played outside North America. To those who don't like USA hosting so many things, a couple of Gold Cup doubleheaders outside the USA and this tournament in Costa Rica are small steps away from that. Concacaf gets two spots in the Olympics, which has 16 teams.
     
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  2. ChuckBlazersCat

    Tottenham Hotspur, Celtic FC, FC St. Pauli, Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 25, 2019
    Give that the US will almost certainly have to beat either Costa Rica at home or Mexico to go through, it will be interesting to see if they really stack this u23 team (Weah, Sargent, McKinnie, Adams, and even Pulisic) and sort of blow off the Nations League. They've purged the CONCACAF-CONMEBOL playoff in favor of sending 2 from South America and 3 from Asia in addition to the host (Japan).
     
  3. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    We could stack up our team with Davies, David, Millar, Busti, Brault-Guillard, Cornelius and Tabla while the new Canadian Premier league will be providing a contingent on U23 players.

    Dont count us out to fast
     
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  4. ChuckBlazersCat

    Tottenham Hotspur, Celtic FC, FC St. Pauli, Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 25, 2019
    I don't doubt you for a second, but the math doesn't change. Anyone who wants to qualify for the Olympics, must beat either Mexico or Costa Rica in Costa Rica. Whether that happens in the group stage, allowing them to get the second place team from the other group in the semi-final tie or by beating one of those teams in the semifinal, it still has to be done.
     
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  5. Alex Orillac Humberto

    Dortmund
    Panama
    Feb 28, 2019
    Panama should easily defeat El Salvador in the 2 legs and hopefully we can qualify to the Olympics
     
  6. Alex Orillac Humberto

    Dortmund
    Panama
    Feb 28, 2019
    I don't thinks the US will bring those players to the 2020 qualifiers. They barely brought their prime squad to the Gold Cup...
     
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  7. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.fifa.com/mensolympic/news/dates-confirmed-for-concacaf-qualifiers is titled "Dates and venue confirmed for Concacaf qualifiers." It will be from March 20 to April 1 at Estadio Akron and Estadio Jalisco in Guadalajara. The time and host don't match my first post, which said it would be in October. In terms of the best players being available, this is during FIFA matchdays where clubs must release players, but it's competing with the Nations League Final Four, so some countries could want U-23s with the senior national teams. The Central American qualifiers were on July 17 and 21, and these were the results:

    Guatemala 0-3 Costa Rica
    Costa Rica 0-2 Guatemala
    Costa Rica won aggregate 3-2

    Nicaragua 0-2 Honduras
    Honduras 3-0 Nicarague
    Honduras won aggregate 5-0

    Panama 1-1 El Salvador
    El Salvador 2-0 Panama
    El Salvador won aggregate 3-1

    The Caribbean qualifiers end this month, but a date wasn't given. The four group winners are in two pairs where there is one game hosted by the team ranked better. St. Kitts and Nevis will host Dominican Republic, and Haiti will host Barbados.
     
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  8. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Nations League finals have been moved to the June FIFA window, according to a sentence buried in this USSF press release, so there's not that conflict. Senior teams would only be playing friendlies in March.

    https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/20...tional-teams-match-in-concacaf-nations-league

    This tournament is mostly in a FIFA window, but not at the start until March 23. Leagues will have games on the March 21-22 weekend. My understanding is that there is no longer mandatory release for U-23 tournaments, but someone can correct me.
     
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  9. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't think there was ever mandatory releasing for U-23 or any youth tournaments. Even players who played on March 21-22 weekend should be available for the Semifinals.
     
  10. edcalvi

    edcalvi Moderator
    Staff Member

    Olimpia
    Guatemala
    May 1, 2005
    US
    Panama is not the same as before. Their golden generation retired and newer players are still in development.

     
  11. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even if the golden generation didn't retire, they couldn't have played U-23 games.
     
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  12. NADIRA SAM

    NADIRA SAM New Member

    Real Madrid
    France
    Oct 25, 2019
    and even Pulisic) and sort of blow off the Nations League. They've purged the CONCACAF-CONMEBOL playoff in favor of sending 2 from South America and 3 from Asia in addition to the host (Japan).
     
  13. NADIRA SAM

    NADIRA SAM New Member

    Real Madrid
    France
    Oct 25, 2019
    I don't doubt you for a second, but the math doesn't change. Anyone who wants to qualify for the Olympics, must beat either Mexico or Costa Rica in Costa Rica. Whether that happens in the group stage, allowing them to get the second place team from the other group in the semi-final tie or by beating one of those teams in the semifinal, it still has to be done.
     
  14. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. blacksun

    blacksun Member+

    Mar 30, 2006
    Seoul, Korea
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My bold prediction: Dominican Republic will not get out of the group.
     
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  16. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Honduras with an interesting group. Can't rest on our laurels.. I like our chances at qualifying for another Olympics.
     
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  17. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does anyone know when the last time (if ever) Concacaf had Mexico, USA, and Costa Rica in the same group of four? Include senior and youth competitions, but only for men (since countries aren't equally good at each gender), and do not include futsal or beach soccer.
     
  18. edcalvi

    edcalvi Moderator
    Staff Member

    Olimpia
    Guatemala
    May 1, 2005
    US
    I love Group A and I will definitely be watching the tourney.
     
  19. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  20. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most of Concacaf will have WCQ Round 1 then.
     
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  21. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NEW YORK – For the first time in English-language television history, FOX Sports presents a full slate of matches and extensive studio coverage of the Concacaf Men’s Olympic Qualifying Championship from Thursday, March 18, through Tuesday, March 30, on FS1 and FS2. The tournament features eight teams from North America, the Caribbean and Central America with the two semifinal winners securing a berth to the Summer Olympics in Tokyo.

    https://www.foxsports.com/presspass...irst-time-english-language-television-history
     
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  22. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Date Time (ET) Network Matchup
    March 18 5:30 PM FS1 United States vs. Costa Rica
    March 18 8:00 PM FS1 Mexico vs. Dominican Republic
    March 19 3:26 PM FS2 Honduras vs. Haiti
    March 19 6:00 PM FS1 Canada vs. El Salvador
    March 21 7:00 PM FS1 Dominican Republic vs. United States
    March 21 9:30 PM FS1 Costa Rica vs. Mexico
    March 22 6:00 PM FS1 Haiti vs. Canada
    March 22 8:30 PM FS1 El Salvador vs. Honduras
    March 24 6:56 PM FS2 Costa Rica vs. Dominican Republic
    March 24 9:30 PM FS1 Mexico vs. United States
    March 25 7:30 PM FS1 El Salvador vs. Haiti
    March 25 10:00 PM FS1 Honduras vs. Canada

    March 28 6:00 PM FS1 Semifinal
    March 28 9:00 PM FS1 Semifinal k

    March 30 9:00 PM FS1 Final
     
  23. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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