2019 Season's 22,500 average attendance watch thread

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by firefan2001, Jan 16, 2019.

  1. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    It would be a decrease from 2018. Despite Portland expanding their stadium and FCC joining. So yes, it's bad.
     
  2. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Not arguing but Minnesota also moved into a stadium smaller than their last year attendance.
     
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  3. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We had a 21,873 average last year, if we do end up with 21,324 average that's not that big of a drop off. I guesstimated on the low end for Chicago, FC Dallas, Colorado, NYRB, NYCFC (a lot of Wednesday games), Montreal, Columbus, Houston and Vancouver. So if they show better than what I guesstimated we will be at or above last years number.
     
  4. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Oh, I thought you were saying that even if every remaining regular season game were a sellout, we'd be below last year's average?
     
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  5. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    I thought the same thing. The discussion was all about if every team sold out every remaining game could the league average 22,500. So I assumed that is what he did in his calculations.
     
  6. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If all the games were to sellout our average would be 22,400, just under the 22,500 goal and 527 per more than 2018 (21,837).

    Went with what wikipedia has for 100% capacity, expect for FC Dallas (post construction 19,500), NYRB (tarped off 21,000).
     
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  7. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Ok, that's not so bad then. While of course not all the remaining games will sell out, we might match last year's average.
     
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  8. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Where did you find this? I have been looking for it for a while. I have had others on BS tell me that the capacity hasn't changed even though it very clearly has.
     
  9. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guesstimate......Just like the NYRB's is a guesstimate......
     
  10. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    9,180,000 is what we need to get to a 22,500 average this year.

    WeekWeek AverageTotalAverage
    #20....435,32524,1854,187,911-435,325=3,752,586/148=25,355 to average 22,500
     
  11. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    9,180,000 is what we need to get to a 22,500 average this year.

    WeekWeek AverageTotalAverage
    #21....230,87919,2403,752,586-230,879=3,521,707/136=25,895 to average 22,500
     
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  12. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    9,180,000 is what we need to get to a 22,500 average this year.

    WeekWeek AverageTotalAverage
    #22....307,54725,6293,521,707-307,547=3,214,160/124=25,921 to Average 22,500
     
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  13. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    9,180,000 is what we need to get to a 22,500 average this year.

    WeekWeek AverageTotalAverage
    #23....290,71822,3633,214,160-290,718=2,923,442/111=26,337 to average 22,500
     
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  14. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    9,180,000 is what we need to get to a 22,500 average this year.

    WeekWeek AverageTotalAverage
    #24....344,90920,2762,923,442-344,909=2,578,533/94=27,431 to average 22,500
     
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  15. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    9,180,000 is what we need to get to a 22,500 average this year.

    WeekWeek AverageTotalAverage
    #25....325,11821,6752,578,533-325,118=2,253,415/79=28,524 to average 22,500
     
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  16. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    9,180,000 is what we need to get to a 22,500 average this year.

    WeekWeek AverageTotalAverage
    #26....265,02020,3862,253,415-265,020=1,988,395/66=30,127 to average 22,500
     
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  17. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    9,180,000 is what we need to get to a 22,500 average this year.

    WeekWeek AverageTotalAverage
    #27....110,77122,1541,988,395-110,771=1,877,624/61=30,781 to average 22,500
     
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  18. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    9,180,000 is what we need to get to a 22,500 average this year.

    WeekWeek AverageTotalAverage
    #28....368,52823,0331,877,624-368,528=1,509,096/45=33,535 to average 22,500
     
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  19. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering the number of midweek fixtures has increased it's not bad at all. Of course it won't stop the MLS critics from having a ****fest.
     
  20. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Mar 10, 2010
    Virginia
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This year was shortened, and thus had more midweek games because they have to have a set number of weeks between the end of MLS Cup and the start of the new season per the CBA. Next year will start in February and end the same as this year, meaning it is very likely there will be less mid-week games.
     
  21. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Overall the league is down about 3% per game. The increase in Portland offsets the decrease in Minnesota. Columbus is up and Chicago down for ownership related reasons. What's the story in New England and Montreal?

    https://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2019-mls-attendance/
     
  22. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    New England were averaging about 11,000 before Arena took over, so they've picked up a bit. Montreal are going nowhere fast.
     
  23. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    9,180,000 is what we need to get to a 22,500 average this year.

    WeekWeek AverageTotalAverage
    #29....357,72823,8491,509,096-357,728=1,151,368/30=38,379 to average 22,500
     
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  24. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    #74 NashSC, Sep 24, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2019
    FC Cincinnati (27,442 average) is also significantly over the 2018 average so they are pulling the average up. That means the downers are do more damage than the others.
    All 3 canadian teams are down. Vancouver is down over 2k per game. NYCFC is down over 2k per game.

    Actually there are only 6 teams that are up or even from last year are:
    1. Philly
    2. DC (even)
    3. SJ (even)
    4. LAFC (basically even)
    5. Portland
    6. Atlanta (even)

    17 teams are down from last year, 1 team is new.
     
  25. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Columbus is up a couple thousand per game of course. It could have been more than that with a better schedule.
     

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