2019 Gold Cup roster/starter predictions?

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by RalleeMonkey, Nov 8, 2017.

  1. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    Why should he? Careers are short and he's shown more respect for the game than USSF brass. His priority should be having the best career possible and if that doesn't include carrying a second rate organization, so be it.
     
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  2. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    GK: Steffen, Horvath, Johnson
    RB: Yedlin, Lima
    CB: Brooks, Miazga, Long, Zimmerman, CCV
    LB: Robinson,
    DM: Bradley
    MF: McKennie, Adams, Roldan, Lletget, Mendez/Dest/Ledezma
    RF: Pulisic (CPT), Arriola
    FW: Altidore, Sargent
    LF: Weah, Amon

    Long will probably be tried at LB in the next camp and could fill in for Robinson if he got hurt. No reason to waste a roster spot on anyone else unless someone breaks through. Adams could play DM if needed, no reason to bring Bradley's not as good twin (Trapp). If Bradley gets hurt in the group stage, then just swap Trapp in for the knock outs. It is possible Bradley is backing up Adams.

    The Mendez/Dest/Ledezma spot is for whichever of those three we feel need to be cap tied quickest. We might have to take all three for the group stages and swap them out later if needed.

    I was always a big fan of Fabian Johnson but the writing is on the wall. Bedoya, Besler, Zusi, Rimando, were not called in to the last camp. Some special exception was made for Bradley (assumed they needed a place holder for Adams I guess), but all the older players were left out. Have to assume Fabian, Chandler, Williams, Cameron are in the same boat.

    Earnie and Gregg want to win the Gold Cup on the way to 2022, not win the Gold Cup then start on 2022.
     
  3. frankburgers

    frankburgers Member

    May 31, 2016
    GGG- do some college football style recruiting, and get Kik and siebatcheu in this squad.
     
  4. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    My totally reactive guess based on January, a near 50-50 split between MLS and Europe (bold = Europe):

    Steffen, Horvath, Johnson
    Yedlin, Lima
    Brooks, Miazga, Zimmerman, Long
    Robinson, Garza
    Bradley, Trapp
    McKennie, Adams, Lletget
    Pulisic, Arriola, Weah, Baird
    Altidore, Wood, Sargent

    1. Berhalter raids Adams, Weah, and Sargent from the U-20s. If Sargent falls back into the Werder Bremen reserves, then that opens a spot for Zardes or Ramirez.
    2. At this point, Berhalter doesn't seem likely to choose between Bradley and Trapp.
    3. Baird is definitely the 23rd man in this group. Berhalter clearly likes stretching the field, and Baird could be the lucky beneficiary.
     
  5. frankburgers

    frankburgers Member

    May 31, 2016
    Corey Baird isn’t good enough to be in this team. He’s a nice role player in mls. He’s not in a first choice 23 camp.
     
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  6. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Youtube: Jimmy Dore, Secular Talk
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have a hard time projecting him to a competitive roster based on his Jan. camp performance, but in fairness to him he didn't play striker or wide left which are a lot more conducive to his success. Would highlight his strength of ball striking and mitigate his ability to get to the end line off the dribble and play in a cross.
     
  7. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    That could be the roster. If Baird is involved at all, and I don't think he showed any ability to play the wing for us, it will be in the group stage and he will be replaced for the knock outs.

    More likely Lewis, Amon, Holmes, Gall, or even Ebobisse would have that spot. Lewis, Amon, and Ebobisse play on the left and the other wingers you listed are right footed (but all have played on the left).
     
  8. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Both FJ and TC are clearly starter quality for USMNT but are working back from injury and I’d let them ease into their club situation.

    Same with Williams as DM.
     
  9. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    If we’re looking at WT/MB as a spine player, we should absolutely have Morales as well. He’s a better player than both although whether he fits exactly what GB is looking for is open to interpretation.
     
  10. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Corey Baird was very good at doing what Berhalter wanted him to do. He might be on the group stage roster at GC.
     
  11. yurch10

    yurch10 Member

    Feb 13, 2004
    Why would we want a Bundesliga starter when we could have our pick of average MLS 6s?

    The greatest is after 4 years of trying to build a team that works around MB (and obviously failing miserably), we are still pushing forward with the. exact. same. effort.

    Zero reason why Adams/McKennie can't handle the middle of the field, but it seems clear to me we're going to keep MB/WT in the starting 11 any way possible.
     
  12. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Will the Gold Cup rules enable mid-tournament squad changes? If so, then players like Baird are definitely going to make the initial 23.
     
  13. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My 40:

    GK
    1. Steffen, 2. Horvath, 3. Johnson, 4. Guzan
    Contender(s): Bono, Miller, Yarbrough, Klinsmann, Hamid

    RB
    1. Yedlin, 2. Lima, 3. Chandler
    Contender(s): Cannon, Rosenberry, Moore, Lichaj, Olosunde

    CB
    1. Brooks, 2. Miazga, 3. Long, 4. Zimmerman, 5. Carter-Vickers, 6. Alvarado,
    Contender(s): Palmer-Brown, Glad, Trusty, McKenzie, Parker

    LB
    1. Robinson, 2. Johnson, 3. Garza
    Contender(s): Lovitz, Villafana, Saief, Sweat
    *Piere takes #1 if he commits.

    DM
    1. Adams, 2. Trapp, 3. Bradley, 4. Morales, 5. Canouse, 6. Delgado
    Contender(s): Parks, Davis, K. Acosta, Williams

    MF
    1. McKennie, 2. Nagbe, 3. Lletget, 4. Mihailovic, 5. Roldan, 6. Green
    Contender(s): Corona, De la Torre, Guido

    RF
    1. Pulisic, 2. Arriola, 3. Baird
    Contender(s): Gooch, Holmes

    FW
    1. Sargent, 2. Wood, 3. Novakovich, 4. Wright, 5. Ramirez, 6. Zardes
    Contender(s): Ebobisse, Dwyer, Altidore
    *Siebatcheu takes #2 if he commits.

    LF
    1. Weah, 2. Amon, 3. Lewis
    Contender(s): Gall, Sabbi, Picault
     
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  14. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Youtube: Jimmy Dore, Secular Talk
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Something for Gregg to think about when selecting this particular roster is it's a full tourney for the U.S. after 2 years without an official competitive match. That means if a player competed throughout the tourney or even a couple games against minnows they may qualify for a work permit in the UK even if they were brand new beforehand. The EPL are making the biggest bids to MLS to prompt transfers that bypass the single entity system.

    So let's say a Chris Mueller gets off to a good start to the season (he's impressed in preseason from what I've heard). He'd be a good pick to take up among the last few spots on the roster. It's added impetus to play the likes of Long and Roldan so they can move before it's too late. Lewis and Mihailovic I imagine don't have the WP issue, but they need to raise their transfer fees. Lima is a given. Maybe Zimmerman also.

    If you have a healthy MLS contingent early on in a cycle it can set you up to have a healthy European one later when it matters. As much as I stick up for MLS players here, that's really one of my goals. Return the assembly line from the American leagues to Europe.
     
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  15. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's a good point and one that stopped happening under Klinsman for whatever reason. Could be it was just the missing generation and no one would have done differently. One day someone will write an investigative piece on the reason for that generation.
     
  16. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    It never occurred to anybody here that Klinsmann didn't want players to go to Europe, did it. Klinsmann was much smarter than many realize, even if he wasn't the best football manager. He took good care of himself.
     
  17. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    Anyone see that Yahoo news story on Cordeiro's presser? Apparently the Confed Cup is officially junked and Cordeiro intimidated that the Gold Cup could be junked after the '21 iteration in favor of a combined Copa American of both confederations? Interesting, that's really critical considering we're losing access to the Confed Cup.
     
  18. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
    Germany just dropped 3 key "old" players from their roster for the Euro 2020 qualifiers. Hummels, Boateng and Mueller. They want to go young. France won the WC with a young squad.

    GB should take a close look at what Loew just did, and get rid of some old tired legs from the USMNT roster. It would be a very smart move.
     
  19. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    The good news is that Berhalter has only called up 3 field players older than 27 in his 3 months as boss.

    The bad news is that Berhalter is not aspiring for popularity in those 3 holdovers, as they are Bradley, Gonzalez, and (to a lesser extent) Ream.
     
  20. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

    Borussia Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    Germany is a soccer wise nation. We're run by a pack of fools (USSF).
     
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  21. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    They have in certain tournaments in the past, if you'll recall, and then allowed up to 6 roster switches for the knock-out stage. I don't know if it's decided that they will continue to do that this summer.
     
  22. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    New Gold Cup roster predictions, post-March friendlies:

    GK: Steffen, Horvath, Johnson.

    Tough cuts: As much as I love Guzan, Atlanta has had a terrible start to the season (though not Brad's fault). Also Hamid has a shot.

    RB: Adams, Yedlin.

    Tough cuts: Lima, Zusi, Chandler. Man, I love Zusi, he's just the man. Wish we had room for him. Lima and SJ have had terrible start to the season.

    CB: Brooks, Long, Miazga, Zimmerman.

    Tough cuts: I admire Gonzalez and Ream, but I think it's time to skew younger. Wouldn't mind Besler coming back though. Cameron Carter-Vickers and Erik Palmer-Brown are still a bit young at 21.

    LB: Fabian Johnson, Antonee Robinson. I really want to see Fabian back in the fold, he is one of our best when he is on. Will need him for qualifying. This is hardest position to predict, major weakness (as always).

    Tough cuts: Garza, Villafana.

    CM: McKennie, Bradley, Trapp, Lletget.

    Tough cuts: Roldan, Canouse, Danny Williams (if healthy).

    W: Pulisic, Arriola, Weah, Green. Think Julian can still offer this team something.

    Tough cuts: Saief, Lewis, Nagbe, Kelyn Rowe.

    F: Altidore, Zardes, Morris, Sargent.

    Tough cuts: Bobby Wood (has kind of stalled), Novakovich (think he is still young and has room to grow), Ramirez, Ebobisse, Dwyer.
    (As stated above, if Siebatcheu wants in, we need to bring him.)
     
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  23. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Bradley and Lletget aren’t WC quality and we need to move on.

    If chandler and morales are healthy and playing, they absolutely should be included. Holmes is also playing quite well and should get a look.

    Everyone talks about how club doesnt matter (usually when pushing for a minor leaguer) but that gets thrown out the window for Bobby Wood. The guy shows up for us in big matches - he was a leading scorer and scored against quality opposition.

    I don’t think Green is good enough although he hasn’t looked bad for the USMNT.
     
  24. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    Bradley and Lletget have been two of the best players for us over last few friendlies - they are both close to a lock.

    Morales hasn't played for US since May 2016 (friendly v. Puerto Rico). He's never been anything special, don't see why he will get a chance now.

    Chandler is still injured, has been out for much of the season. No need to rush him back for Gold Cup.
     
  25. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Three interesting takes... people really don't think there is a MLS bias?

    Bradley and Lletget are locks because they were better than Trapp and Baird.

    Gonzo and Ream got looks and are fondly remembered for their service while Ream didnt perform well and Gonzo is probably the worst center back to ever play for the usmnt.

    Morales grinding it out in the Bundesliga isnt even considered because Arena/Sarachan ignored players like him.
     

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