Pre-match: 2019 CONCACAF Gold Cup Group Stage: USA vs Guyana

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  1. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2019 CONCACAF Gold Cup Group Stage
    USA vs Guyana
    Tuesday, June 18th
    10 PM (ET)
    Allianz Field
    Minneapolis, Minnesota.
    Fox Sports 1



    Final roster will be out on Thursday.
     
  2. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Due to the state of the program, the tournament, and the roster that's inevitably going to piss people off, I'm sure there's going to be a ton cynicism around this team during this tournament.

    That said it has been exactly 600 days since this team last played a game that wasn't a friendly, and I'm incredibly excited to start playing meaningful soccer again.
     
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  3. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    May 4, 2002
    I agree. My cynical side says that I wish that the "meaningful" match was against a team that should have more than nuisance value. Guyana is a third world country with an almost fourth world soccer program. They are so bad that it is almost ludicrous that the matches with them are given any importance whatsoever.

    For the record I like Guyana as a country and I have spent many weeks there that I enjoyed immensely and no I did not go as a tourist but rather as a guest of a resident. However it was clear that the country is way behind the US in every way except, maybe, the quality of their leaders.

    There are exactly two teams in CONCACAF that just might/should play at the level where we should be playing and those are Mexico and Canada. Canada's soccer program is suffering from a lot of the same ills as ours and their player pool is smaller so it takes longer to rebuild after a big fall. However they just might be a team that succeeds in this Gold Cup. They have, it seems, chosen a lot of youth instead of just recycling the old losers like we seem to be doing.

    I wish that CONCACAF had more quality but it just does not and the fact that we often have problems with even the dregs of CONCACAF says a lot about just how bad we are.
     
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  4. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    And I'm incredibly excited that after more than 600 days watching our team play 'meaningless' matches we are about to play a meaningful match about which we can be genuinely, unapologetically, unreservedly, unabashedly critical.
     
  5. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's the spirit!
     
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  6. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It will be a sad day when the world ends and BigSoccer ceases to exist.
     
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  7. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    May 4, 2002
    But will the world ending cause Big Soccer to slip into nonexistence or will Big Soccer's demise cause the world to end or will something else cause both events or is there really no relationship between the two events?
     
  8. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We won’t feel emotion when the world ends anyway.

    You know, because... well...






    We’re dead?
     
  9. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    I'm always somewhat amused/amazed when we play the deep minnows as to where they pull players from. Guyana's 40 Man (they appear to have only listed 38 players) is comprised of players playing club football in:
    • Guyana Domestic League - 16
    • England - 13
      • EPL - 1
        • Apparently one of their GK is on Liverpool's books, no action this season at any level anywhere as far as I can tell. Last season he played in the 7th/8th tier.
      • Championship - 0
      • Tier 3 - 1
      • Tier 4 - 3
      • Tier 5 - 4
      • Tier 6 - 2
      • Tier7/8 (semi-pro) - 2
    • United States -3
      • MLS -1
      • USL -1
      • USL II - 1
    • Canada (not MLS, CA league) - 2
    • Netherlands (2nd tier) - 1
    • Norway (3rd Tier) -1
    • T & T - 1
    • Suriname -1
    Always some good names of these clubs, too. My favorite this time is the guy in Suriname. His club is "Walking Boyz Company." They also feature 4 guys from Guyana's "Fruta Conquerors." Not sure about their soccer skills, but they can split open jackfruit with the best of them.
     
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  10. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good news is that the world can never end today, because it is always tomorrow in Australia.
     
  11. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First competitive match for this cycle and for GreggB. So, what are you guys looking to see in a match like this (beyond 3 points)?
     
  12. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    No injuries and good communication between the players.
     
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  13. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    On My Squatty Potty
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    10 PM EST?

    Now that I live on the east coast I find these late start times to be a disgrace to humanity.
     
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  14. GiallorossiYank

    GiallorossiYank Member+

    Jan 20, 2011
    NJ/Roma/Napoli
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Funny you say that...as I'm back in the USA in NYC (for now) and I said to myself...10PM EST...wtf??????

    Sure as hell beats 1AM Italian time lol...2AM Eastern European time?
     
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  15. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    Complete domination of the midfield - any time Guyana steps into the middle of the pitch, they will immediately lose the ball to a systematic, well-organized midfield. We struggled so much in the center last cycle, when even Martinique was able to successfully build up through the middle. If we're still ceding space and possession this cycle, to Guyana of all teams, then we need to rethink what the hell we're doing.

    Other than that - it'd be nice to see us score some goals off the run of play. Will be disappointed if we score only on corners and penalties.

    A clean sheet would be nice, too....
     
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  16. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, how is the USA gonna lose this match?
     
  17. USA-Zebuel

    USA-Zebuel Member+

    Mar 26, 2013
    Club:
    Colón de Santa Fe
    It soccer’s fault you decided to go back to live with the descendants of people to lazy to go out west.
     
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  18. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was going to say that the team bus gets a flat on the way to the game.

    But then I realized, even if that happens, they would select a team of fans from the stands, who would beat these guys...
     
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  19. USA-Zebuel

    USA-Zebuel Member+

    Mar 26, 2013
    Club:
    Colón de Santa Fe
    Freak illegal one time switch by CR7 to Guyana is passed by corrupt FIFA officials. USA is up 2-1 when an un-named central midfielder gives the ball away to CR7 in our 1/3 instead of getting the ball upfield to run out the clock and end the game. Easy goal by CR and we tie instead of winning a game that would allow us to rest some important dudes.

    I might have plagiarized that scenario
     
  20. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    You jest, but what is, in fact, going to happen is Bolsanaro is planning to invade Guyana to take attention off his impending impeachment. On June 17th he will declare it the State of Guyana. The UN and US convene to express outrage, but Guyana sends diplomats to ask them to hold off until late on the 18th. Brazil sends a U20 D team in Guyanese kits. They samba us into the ground, win the Gold Cup just days before Bolsonaro is removed from office and Guyana gets to go back to being Guyana, but keeping their gold cup.
     
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  21. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A slight correction: Allianz Field is in St. Paul, not Minneapolis. Folks around here get a wee bit sensitive about that.

    10 PM EDT because it's a doubleheader, with Panama & T&T first.
     
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  22. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    Guyana, the Golden Jaguars, deploys an eleven of actual jaguars.

    Berhalter fails to adjust. Match is abandoned when the team runs out of healthy players.
     
  23. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    SJ Earthquakes/Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Pleasanton, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't be ridiculous.

    Guyana fields a team of 11 Jacksonville Jaguars. Berhalter's hybrid RB Lima can't deal with the speed of Tyrelle Pryor/Marquise Lee and the accuracy of Foles' longballs. They beat him with double-moves for multiple touchdowns.
     
  24. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Since this is Guyana's first match ever in the Gold Cup, what's that team like?
     
  25. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Full of players who are very very careful about drinking Kool-Aid.....:coffee:
     

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