2019 CONCACAF Champions League Thread

Yes, there is a very real physical difference between men and women. It's nature...

But this conversation is about tactics. Not about how fast you can run or how high you can jump.

The comment that started this was that the women's game cant be at a high level tactically because... Women...

 

I've never heard of gegenpress and I watched my live game of soccer in 1973 and have watched over professional 500 matches live in 70+ grounds/stadiums.

It's probably because I don't give a crap about Liverpool or the Premier League, even though I'm from a long line of scousers.

 

I think what Jazzy is trying to say is that if you aren't watching Top 4, exclusively, in England you aren't a true soccer fan.

So typical BS.

 

Now here’s a valuable, respectful and professional contribution from a big soccer staff member. Does telling posters to “shut up” fall within your job description?

 

It is theoretically possible but unlikely as a practical matter because those coaches with top talent will go where the money, prestige, and the highest level of performance lives: that’s the men’s game.

 

I disagree. If your argument was true, top coaches would only coach top national teams and clubs, and Martino wouldn't have gone from Argentina to Atlanta, not to mention Beckham, Henry, Rooney, etc. in MLS. Even if tactics and training are unlikely to be improved by women's clubs, the chance isn't 0, and if you keep in mind how many men's clubs and women's clubs there are, there could be more innovation by men's clubs even if the average women's club was more likely to innovate than the average men's club.

 

Can you name a single top level men’s coach who has transitioned to the women’s game? Or vice verse? That’s not a rhetorical question— I’m truly interested if it’s ever happened. There’s an interesting discussion to be had here, but I think it can happen without slanderous accusations of sexism.

 

there’s literally nothing sexist about what I said. It is not sexist to say that women’s soccer is generally at a lower standard across the bored. There’s plenty of objective evidence to support that from talent of players and coaches to money investment. You may disagree that conclusion but back it up with argument instead of ideological slander.

And plenty others are in the off topic discussion so chastiSe everyone—not just me who undermines your ideology.

 

Jahr Null

 

Omid Namazi, or does he not rate in your book because he also coached American indoor soccer.

 

So, will Kashima Antlers repeat next year?

Oh, only CONCACAF CL here?

 

Would-be opponents for the Crew in 2020/21 at CWC, I could hear more.

Seriously, though, I think we are gonna win this thing this year. TFC was close. RSL was close a few years back. LAG had a real shot long ago and again 5 years or so ago. Time for another MLS team to be Kings if Concacaf.

I think Atlanta has a real shot. NYRB and SKC are solid. TFC still have some juice with an improved D. And Houston can counter. Vamos MLS.

 

The Dynamo signed a Slovenian National Team CB and one of his first acts for the team will be to play in Guatemala. This should be fun.

 

Sure we can counter with the best of them. Elis and Manotas are about as dangerous as they come outside Mexico. Problem is our defense can't stop a slight breeze from knocking the ball past the line.

 

LAG didn't have a real shot recently. In 2016-2017, FC Dallas lost the Semifinal aggregate 4-3 to Pachuca, who won the Final aggregate 2-1 over Tigres. All of the 2015-2016 Semifinalists were Mexican. In 2014-2015, Montreal got a 1-1 draw at Club America in the first leg of the Final before losing 4-2 at home. 2013-2014 had no MLS Semifinalists. In the Quarterfinals, San Jose got a 1-1 draw hosting Toluca and a 1-1 draw at Toluca with Toluca winning penalty kicks, and Toluca was the 1 seed and San Jose was the 8 seed. 2012-2013 had the Semifinal aggregates be Santos Laguna 2-1 over Seattle and Monterrey 3-1 over LAG, so LAG wasn't the best MLS club if you go by aggregate margin of defeat. In 2011-2012, Toronto was the only Semifinalist from MLS, and they lost the aggregate 7-3. 2010-2011 was when RSL lost the Final.

 

Were the 2018 Red Bulls and KC better than in 2016? I think so. But the Red Bulls will miss Adams.

 

I don't want to be the Negative Nancy as I am an ATL fan but just going by what I have seen so far, MLS teams don't seem to have a chance. So far ATL has only added Shea (sigh) and have yet to announce Pity Martinez and the sale of Almiron. While good grab in regards to Pity, it doesn't compare to what Monterrey upgraded with. SKC is on a worst boat. I originally thought they could have a chance against Toluca but same thing, Toluca did lose some key players but upgraded with better ones. SKC on the other hand lost players and I haven't heard of them getting some good quality players that could make a difference. TFC is still a mystery as to what team will show up, the 2018 CCL or the 2018 MLS regular season team. I will sound like a broken record but......the salary cap hurts MLS teams in these kind of tournaments. Don't get me wrong, I do want to see for a change an MLS team to win, but based on players acquired during the off season I see that difficult.

 

I still think Atlanta has a chance against anyone. Also, if Almiron is not yet sold, won't he play?