2019 Coach Hot Seat Thread

Discussion in 'College & Amateur Soccer' started by WatzBruin, Sep 16, 2018.

  1. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    Soccer Tom making a comeback on BS?
     
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  2. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was it really a good move? Or could they have waited until next year when contract expired? What is their budget for HC Soccer? Minus $143k.
     
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  3. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
     
  4. Salsamdon

    Salsamdon New Member

    Juventus
    United States
    Oct 28, 2018
    Sure, good point. They certainly could have waited. Not sure what the culture is like there amongst the players and staff but yeah that salary on the books is a big blow to the budget
     
  5. espola

    espola Member+

    Feb 12, 2006
    They may have concocted a way to move the cost somewhere outside the athletic budget, such as becoming a "marketing consultant" in the President's office or some other such lie.
     
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  6. Salsamdon

    Salsamdon New Member

    Juventus
    United States
    Oct 28, 2018
    Southern Wesleyan head Coaching position open. Small Christian school in D2, they play in Conference Carolinas.
     
  7. CHIII

    CHIII New Member

    Oct 31, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  8. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. Unexpected.

    Elmar Bolowich is done at Creighton (now). Johnny Torres takes over.
     
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  9. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    agreed unexpected and surprising.

    Torres has been doing a good job, though. So, does Bob Warming take both Omaha teams?
     
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  10. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Hell of a run. A national title, six College Cup appearances - including five in a row between 08-12 at UNC and Creighton - and coached multiple national team and MLS players, a few of whom played abroad as well.

    Eddie Pope, Gregg Berhalter, Kerry Zavagnin, Dax McCarty, Zach Loyd, Eddie Robinson, Logan Pause, Cary Talley, Sheanon Williams, Chris Carrieri, Chad Ashton, Ethan Finlay, Brent Kallman, Eric Miller and so on.

    It's an impressive list and college soccer is better because of Elmar.
     
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  12. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Nice to see another Hispanic head coach and another coach with MLS experience.
     
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  13. CHIII

    CHIII New Member

    Oct 31, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  14. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rumors of a school in Alabama will be needing a new coach.
     
  15. BigRedFootie

    BigRedFootie Member+

    Jan 31, 2003
    B-town
    Yes, I believe that UAB and Mike Getman are parting ways. Pity - a good coach and a great man.
     
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  16. WatzBruin

    WatzBruin Member

    Aug 23, 2011
    LA - SF Valley
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    After (not surprisingly) going 1 and out in the tournament, I gotta believe UCLA’s Jorge Salcedo’s seat is red hot after finishing 4th in conference for the second consecutive year (last conference title was in 2012) and going 1- 5 in their last six games.

    IMHO, the program is in need of a serious jump start.
     
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  17. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Since falling to UVa on PKs in the 2014 national title game, UCLA has gone

    11-9-1, lost in the 2nd round of the NCAA Tournament
    10-8-2, lost in the 2nd round of the NCAA Tournament
    7-10-1, did not make the NCAA Tournament
    10-9-0, lost in the first round of the NCAA Tournament

    That's a combined record of 38-36-4 with no trips to the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Tournament over four years.

    The question isn't if Salcedo's performance warrants being let go but rather if the AD cares enough about soccer to do so.
     
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  18. espola

    espola Member+

    Feb 12, 2006
    Just asking - does UCLA camp expect much better results than that? That's a tie in the national final, followed by a winning record overall and NCAA Tournament 4 out of the last 5 years?
     
  19. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Well, given UCLA's resources, they should expect much better.

    This is a program that between 1970 and 2002 went to the Final Four 11 times, or on average, once every three years. It made the final seven times and won four national titles. That's, on average, one College Cup appearance every three years and a national title every eight years.

    During that same time, they made the Sweet 16 and additional 13 times (for a total of 24) and the quarterfinals for an additional five times, for a total of 16.

    So basically, between 70 and 02, it was a bad year if UCLA weren't at least in the Sweet 16. Contrast that to the current team and the (four-year) seniors have never been to the Sweet 16. Next year's juniors will have

    Salcedo has been head coach 15 years and been to three College Cups and not won a national title. And he missed the NCAA Tournament last season and have hovered around .500 the other three seasons and can't get past the second round.

    I've said this before, but if the AD is too busy to take a long, hard look at the program, Salcedo's resume looks pretty good. Three College Cup appearances between 06 and 14, two of them in the national title game. Lots of players to the pros and youth national teams and, occasionally, the senior team and doing all of it with players leaving early and staying out of trouble and adding a pretty diverse group of student athletes. Not to mention, he's a minority hire and he helped raise money for a new soccer stadium.

    And UCLA, despite all its recent underachieving, is still better the last four years than 80 percent of the programs in college soccer.

    So yeah, compared to the traditional standards, UCLA is underachieving.
    But it's easy for an AD to look at all that and despite the recent record, especially when compared to the past, think the good outweighs the bad with Salcedo.
     
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  20. espola

    espola Member+

    Feb 12, 2006
    All that reads to me like good reasons for him to be kept.

    Many years ago (2008 or 9) when my son was looking over the offers and hints he had been getting from schools, he decided that UCLA could not overcome its biggest liability - it was in LA.
     
  21. CollegeFan

    CollegeFan Member

    Nov 10, 2009
    Reminds me of Mike Freitag's firing in 2009. Hoosiers went to the third round of the NCAA Tournament that year. Any other IU coach making a postseason third round would get a ring and a raise. But the standard for IU men's soccer is different. He didn't have a losing season during his tenure, they went to NCAAs every year. But 5 straight seasons of no College Cup? That was enough.

    Makes me wonder if IU had gone to the College Cup in 2008 (by not blowing a 2-0 lead at St. John's with less than 9 minutes left in the game) if the leash would have been longer.
     
  22. theatric7

    theatric7 Member

    Nov 12, 2011
    Not to mention UCLA has had one of the top, if not the top recruiting class for every one of these years. Seems like a big underachievement when they are constantly getting the best players coming to their school.
     
  23. mc101010

    mc101010 New Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Nov 16, 2018
    Would Adam Cooper at Saint Mary's be an option here if UCLA did make a change? He has done well at a much lower profile school and is a UCLA alum.
     
  24. espola

    espola Member+

    Feb 12, 2006
    "best players" is someone's opinion.
     
  25. boxcar123

    boxcar123 Member

    Nov 15, 2012
    UNC-Greensboro is now open.
     

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