2019 Breakout Youngster

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  1. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I need to see more of this kid. HE was even surprised that it went in.
     
  2. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    His reaction to the second goal reminded me of Michael Jordan's reaction after he hit his 97th 3-pointer in the first half (over Cliff Robinson) against the Portland Trailblazers in the 1992(?) NBA Finals.
     
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  3. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    He's been at the front of the young forward pool for quite some time. There was a reason he was GenAd and a 1st round draft pick. [Picked 8th right after Chris Mueller of Orlando.

    From a UYSNT perspective he has one of those tweener birthdays. He was only a couple months too old to be on the U20 World Cup team that just finished. Players like that end up being two young for one U20 cycle and too old for the next. So he's been a little outside of that hype world.

    But now that he's in the U23 cycle, he should be at the forefront of the domestic options for Olympic qualifying. Toye, Ebobisse, Ferreira, Vasquez, etc. [Because the Euro forwards like Sargent, Weah, Soto, etc. are unlikely to be available.]
     
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  4. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
     
  5. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
  6. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Taking nothing from Toye (I actually think he’s a nice prospect) I really wouldn’t call that a Golazo. He had tons of time and space.
     
  7. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Every attacking player in MLS has tons of time and space pretty often though.
     
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  8. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    I don’t like to see the bar lowered by guys like Ives, I guess.
     
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  9. gogorath

    gogorath Member

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Semantics aside, I'm impressed even with the time and space, at least relative to the pool. We have too many attackers who can't accurately and consistently place the ball even with time and space.
     
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  10. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    The soft bigotry of low expectations ;)
     
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  11. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Youtube: Jimmy Dore, Secular Talk
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a golazo. Quick turn and delivery in rhythm, letting one rip from distance, with pinpoint accuracy.

    The other one was too. Carried the ball a distance, give and go, quick turn, and curl from a tough angle.

    He didn't give the defense, who was naturally covering deeper or another area initially, much chance other than to flail their body at him recklessly and risk getting burned.
     
  12. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    We don't need to find excuses to marginalize the performances of one of our few young, US-eligible forwards in MLS. He's young (only months too old to be part of this recently completed U20 cycle) and he's scoring. Those were good goals. For Pete's sake, we're not expecting him to be Zlatan Ibrahimovic at this point.............are we?

    It's OK for folks to be excited about a young player.
     
  13. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
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  14. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    “Taking nothing from Toye (I actually think he is nice prospect)...” if that is marginalizing a young player we may as well shut down the YNT forum. I thought it was a nice goal as well, not a golazo. YMMV.
     
  15. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    The demon is in the details. Toye is right footed. Both goals are with his left foot. Something that his defenders were not expecting but will certainly be in the scouting reports from this point on.

    I really liked his first goal. Confident dribble, good timing and the space and time was created because of his movement. But yeah, he won't be allowed to get that much time ever again.
     
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  16. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
  17. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for posting this Clint. The D side of the ball has been concerning for a long time for the MNT and it is exciting to see the emergence of young dynamic D players like Richards and Dest. Both of them could play important roles in the upcoming run towards 2022. Here is ESPN's recent write-up on Dest:

    https://www.espn.com/soccer/united-...hing-but-even-if-hes-nothes-proof-of-progress

    It essentially a cautionary tale of our endless pursuit in the US for a Soccer Savior.
     
  18. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
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  19. Brotheryoungbuck

    Jan 24, 2015
    parts unknown
    I think Ledezma might be the next player to break out, but it hit me just recently he may be the player we need to break out the most. A legit 10 would be huge for our national team. If we had Ledezma at the 10 Pulisic can be just a winger again and we won’t need to ask so much of McKennie any more, both can just do what they have proven ability at.
     
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  20. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Matko Miljevic? Paxton Pomykal? McKinnie is an 8 nothing will change with him
     
  21. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I'm not sure Paxton is a #10 either.
    FCD uses him as a "free #8".

    MIljevic, on the other hand.................seems to be a real #10.

    How about this play from last weekend :)
     
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  22. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    We have to be narrowing down the list of real contenders for the 2019 award, right? There's 6 games left to stake a claim to being a USMNT regular.

    I'd say it's down to Sargent, Dest, Pomykal, and Weah. I'd roll over everyone else (Soto, Mendez, Llanez, Richards, Ledezma, Reyna, etc.) to 2020.

    Weah is at a disadvantage with his hamstring injury, but he'd still have a chance if he's fit in time for the October games.

    Pomykal is probably also downgraded slightly, since his club breakout "only" came in MLS, unless he really tears things up for the Nats.

    Sargent and Dest both seem to factor in their clubs' plans and will at least see decent minutes off the bench with sporadic starts, and both seem poised to at least claim backup roles with the USMNT. Of course, Dest could lose by refusing to accept a cap-tying call-up in October and/or November.
     
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  23. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    For me this is Dest from the Euro brigade and Pomykal from the MLS brigade.
    Pretty clear. There were some happy breakthoughs in MLS that we weren't necessarily expecting (Mason Toye of Minnesota), and some disappointments as well (Mark McKenzie of the Union for instance). As far as other MLS options? Jesus Ferreira of FCD and Brenden Aaronson of Philadelphia are both with the US U23s now.

    As you say, Weah is in the mix on the Europe side. I'm just convinced that Dest will stay ahead of him and Sargent. This is Dest's to lose.

    By the way, while we're at it. The US U17s beat Mexico today. That attacking trio might be one of the best at the U17 World Cup. Two players that have already made their MLS debuts (Pepi of FCD, and Ocampo-Chavez of Seattle) and Gio Reyna of Dortmund. Killer.
     
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  24. Brotheryoungbuck

    Jan 24, 2015
    parts unknown
    The problem for McKennie is if Pulisic isn’t the 10 we don’t really have another 10 and we play dual 8s. I think McKennie is better when he plays with a 10. Paxton can play dual 8s with McKennie but again the whole dual 8s thing. Miljevic is wildly unproven but also I’m no human database I’m supposed to remember a tri-nat with like 2 pro appearance also plays as a 10? There’s also no proof he’s better than Ledezma.
     
  25. Sufjan Guzan

    Sufjan Guzan Member

    Feb 13, 2016
    Not to mention Busio playing mid right underneath them.
     

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