2019 Asian Cup - Knockout Rounds [R]

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  1. Kakeru

    Kakeru Member+

    Manchester United
    Japan
    Feb 22, 2016
    Montréal, QC, Canada
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Bye Felicia! Enjoy your permaban. Nobody wants this kind of crap here.
     
  2. Kamtedrejt

    Kamtedrejt Member+

    Internazionale Milano
    Albania
    Mar 14, 2017
    Hamburg
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Albania
    I knew Japan would come out on top but never expected such a self-destruction by Iran. Hard time now for Iranian Fans!
     
  3. Mussab86

    Mussab86 Member+

    Jan 20, 2006
    Jabriya, Kuwait
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Iraq
    You cant make you hand invisible but since its not in natural position then its still a fault. A player could handle the ball differently and its a choice a player can make. I never said rules means justice. It has flaws. Some rules need to be changed. Just think about it the ref and the Var saw it more than once and decided its a PK. I know and understand that you feel the ref was bought or something but ref performance are monitored by FIFA and every human being wants to get high rating especially from someone who officiates in europe. I dont hold a hard feelings on you. True I was pissed off couple of days ago but that was in the past. Your player’s comment Sardar Azmoun to our player Safa Hadi made me soften and I kinda like him. I know now you are pissed off and who wouldn’t ? you team lost, I understand so everything you said about me is forgiven. I hope you find peace and get over the lost. Hard luck again.
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  4. Kamtedrejt

    Kamtedrejt Member+

    Internazionale Milano
    Albania
    Mar 14, 2017
    Hamburg
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Albania
    Excellent comment!
     
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  5. Suren01

    Suren01 Member+

    Apr 9, 2012
    Netherlands
    Nat'l Team:
    Iraq
    This is what happens when you trash talk other nations and get overconfident. Now it's my time to respond. Better luck next time! :thumbsup:
     
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  6. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    lmao. how is that even relevant? i was correct in my confident prediction: Iran knocked iraq out. but you are coming now that Iran got edged out by japan. i never said Iran would beat japan, i said it was 50-50.
     
  7. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    i hope CQ stays, but there is a slim chance of that now. under our conditions i simply dont see a better coach for us. the bottom line is that asian teams will always be underdogs at the world cup and it makes sense to play defensive there. so while other coaches might make us play more offensive, they will neglect the defense. CQ is more consistent in terms of WCQ qualifying. for us to qualify to world cup we need to beat all the little or average asian teams, which CQ is an expert of. then against top 5 asian teams it really is 50/50, and so far CQ has been good in this regard, which is why we beat south korea over and over. traditionally, when Iran fails to qualify to the world cup, it is not because we lost to big 5 teams, it is because we played inconsistent and dropped too many point against the smaller teams. as for winning asian cup no coach on earth can do that with us because it is rigged so it is a pointless tournament anyways.
     
  8. qatarigunner

    qatarigunner Member

    Aug 25, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Qatar 15 points (5-0-0) > Iran 13 points (4-1-1) ;)
     
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  9. Kakeru

    Kakeru Member+

    Manchester United
    Japan
    Feb 22, 2016
    Montréal, QC, Canada
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Marcello Lippi is out of job right now. You don't think the federation can fancy him? As far as everyone is concerned, Iranian players are definitely more talented and more receptive than their Chinese counterparts, so it could work. No disrespect to China at all.
     
  10. Suren01

    Suren01 Member+

    Apr 9, 2012
    Netherlands
    Nat'l Team:
    Iraq
    CQ already announced his farewell.
    This tournament rigged? Pointless? Lol come on man.. don't act like this.
     
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  11. rougou

    rougou Member+

    Dec 7, 2003
    Hyogo
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Lol, calm down. Minamino falls down and gets up quickly a lot. I don't know if it was a dive but he does that a lot and the Iran players should've been aware of that instead of surrounding the ref with half the team like some kind of comedy show.

    As for the PK I'm only baffled why the ref even bothered with VAR when he knew it was a handball already. Seems like they have to do it just to please the fans now. Although I agree it wasn't literally hand to ball, they almost always call the PK in those situations and you should know that if you watch any matches. In that situation the attacker's best play is to cut the ball back to the other players waiting by the penalty spot. When you break up that best play with your hand, you're gonna get called for it whether you dove first or not.

    Despite all that, I still feel Iran was Japan's strongest test, but in the end your game plan relied on putting their defenders under pressure with long balls and long throws and hoping they goofed up, but unfortunately for you that didn't happen. The 20-year old Japanese defender Tomiyasu was brilliant. The keeper Gonda goofed up again, but again he made up for it with a save.
     
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  12. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    1996: saudi drags us to penalties with help of ref with our goals being ruled incorrectly offside, same saudi side we beat 3-0 in group stage, we also beat skorea 6-2 in that tournament

    2004: china farce, obvious red card no given to china, fake red given to Iranian player, china drag us to penalty with help of ref

    2015: against your iraq, same shit, unjustified red card for Iran from ben williams, iraq drags us to penalties

    2019: ref was friend of ben williams, and had a personal connection to japan having officiated in j league, let japan dive all game. gives weak yellows to Iran, doesnt call a japanese dive, japan score after dive not called, then a few minutes later gives japan a penalty for an unavoidable handall.

    so yea, i would say it is rigged. i mean i know shit happens in football, but when you look at the trend against Iran in the knockout stages in 4 tournaments one after the other, then it is hard to say that it is just due to chance.
     
  13. rougou

    rougou Member+

    Dec 7, 2003
    Hyogo
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Lippi is a good coach but he's no miracle worker that can help a team like China, lol. He won in 2006 because he had the best players - a combination of brilliant minds like Pirlo and Totti, and beasts such as Gattuso, Cannavaro, Luca Toni, Materrazi, Zambrotta, etc., all close to their prime. And I'm not even counting De Rossi because he was suspended most of the time.
     
  14. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    after Iran vs portugal, when Iran got a soft penalty for a similar situation against portugal. they officially declared that it was a mistake to give the penalty. yet today japans penalty was even softer and japan got the penalty. so no, it was not a penalty according to the rules. it was a clear mistake, a suspect one at that.
     
  15. ken85

    ken85 New Member

    Peru
    Oct 16, 2018
    Tokyo
    Interestngly, Japanese fans are criticizing the Australian ref too on their Japanese boards lol. Move on Iran. The stadium was packed with Iran fans but still you lost. Japan's defenders totally shut down Iran's attacks. Tomiyasu and Yoshida were toying with Azmoun. As I said before, Japan's defenders are head and sholders above the rest of Asia.

     
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  16. rougou

    rougou Member+

    Dec 7, 2003
    Hyogo
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Lol the Iran penalty was much softer and pretty much unprecedented. He was just going up for a header and the ball deflected a few inches before him into his arm. But I'm glad it happened, otherwise Portugal would have gotten on the easy bracket and probably trolled their way to the final, and beat France on PKs or something.
     
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  17. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    azmoun nutmegged 2 of your defenders and made clowns of them. so he was the one toying with them. japan had to resort to diving against us. speaks volumes. we made you lose your status as a fair play and honest team. so enjoy the shitty AFC manufactured final against qatar. most times Iran and japan go to world cup we outperform you. you are overrated. your players go to europe more than Iranian players due to financial reasons. otherwise there would not be a gap. if Iran had same infrastructure as japan we would be toying with you 3-0 every game. you lack individual talent of Iranian players but make up with it for efficiency and economic advantage.
     
  18. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006

    stop being so biased. The Iran penalty vs Portugal was much softer than this one. Today the handball stopped a dangerous cross into the box. Against Portugal there was no threat what so ever.

    Again I want to repeat that I dont classify either as a PK, but todays was much more close to a PK call than the Portugal one.

    Today the handball, although completely unintentional could have potentially stopped a clear chance. No such thing happened against Portugal.
     
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  19. Mani

    Mani BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 1, 2004
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    When you’re good, you also make your luck and “get lucky”. That’s the case with Japan. They’re just a very good side with every starter playing in Europe. Now if Uzbekistan didn’t think so highly of themselves, fielding a B team against Japan, and allowing Japan to rest all their starters and still win their group, or if the Saudis knew how to score one of their many chances against Japan, or if Australia hadn’t choked against UAE and no Australian referee could have been appointed for this match, then Japan could very well be out by now. But Gods of Football and Lady Luck love Japan because Japan is good and they’re now once again the favourites to win it all.
     
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  20. rougou

    rougou Member+

    Dec 7, 2003
    Hyogo
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Oh yes, the individual talent to play long balls and long throws for 90 minutes straight. I can't wait for Japan to get some of that talent. :ROFLMAO:
     
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  21. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    nope. at least portuguese defender had some chance of moving his arm by turning his body. but when you go for a slide tackle your arm is by your side. you cant detach it. regardless both calls were soft and not penalties.
     
  22. Suren01

    Suren01 Member+

    Apr 9, 2012
    Netherlands
    Nat'l Team:
    Iraq
    You can go back to PFDC now. Sore loser.
     
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  23. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    i was replying to japanese guy who was talking shit. stay out of it. nobody cares about iraq. shouldnt you be crying about how some iraqi qataris grandma migrated to qatar or something. stop riding japan.
     
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  24. +PL+

    +PL+ Member+

    Jun 22, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I totally agree with you about 96 and 04 but not the rest. We lost today because of our own mistake.
     
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  25. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    apparently you did not watch the game. how many interceptions did Iran have to break up japans smooth passing? that is individual skill. but japan relies more on teamwork and passing. none of their players were individually brilliant. also azmoun who nutmegged 2 japanese players. you are clueless about football if you dont think japans strategy was possession based passing and Irans was to rely on individual effort i.e. trying to find azmoun, or dejagah breaking up japans passing, or our defenders doing slide tackles. go watch the game again. Iran has physical advantage over japan, of course it is smart to do long throws and crosses. i dont know why you dont understand this. and yes long throws and crosses to header specialists like azmoun is individual talent which backs up my argument. rather than japans ping pong passing trying to do a team effort to expose a gap in the defense and then have any japanese slot it in.
     

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