2019-20 CONCACAF Nations League Thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Sebsasour, Mar 27, 2019.

  1. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Smart move.

    The next smart move would be to schedule two-legged promotion/relegation playoffs between the leagues, to take place at the same time as the Finals.
     
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  2. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When will our federation thank them by denying their club teams from summer money grabs here?
     
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  3. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    USSoccer wouldn't dare - what with China, Saudi Arabia and Qatar ready to welcome those club with open arms.
     
  4. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I don't know that anyone wants to go play friendlies in Doha in July.
     
  5. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What, you mean those air-conditioned stadiums can't handle the Qatari summer?

    Next you'll tell me they'll reschedule the World Cup away from June/July - that would be silly :p

    /s
     
  6. alslammerz

    alslammerz Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    Staten Island, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh yeah baby... Concacaf Nations League is back!

    And it's going to be hard to top French Guiana 3 - Belize 0 as a result because, well I can't explain it better than this.

     
  7. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How does French Guiana get the forfeited victory here when they denied Belize to land?
     
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  8. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    It's outrageous and we should demand an explanation, in case we ever need to do the same thing ourselves.
     
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  9. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So does Belize return the favor for the next game?
     
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  10. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The general tone of the majority of the comments on the FFB's Facebook post is that the Federation are covering their rear ends for having screwed up the logistics for the game.

    Btw, why did the players have to go to Guatemala City to apply for their EU visas?
     
  11. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I'm not super well-versed in the particulars of applying for visas, but France doesn't have an embassy in Belize, just an honorary consulate.
     
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  12. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    Gotta love CONCACAF
     
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  13. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    Don't most countries typically allow sporting delegations to visit for a few days without visas?
     
  14. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not really. There are lots of sporting events that get messed up because a player can't get a visa (especially in the US).
     
  15. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    It looks like Curacao, at home, beat Haiti 1-0 to kick off the Group of Death, such as it is.

    Canada, unsurprisingly, is trouncing Cuba in Toronto. They're up 4-0 after 52 minutes.

    I think the US is going to have to bring their A game against Canada next month. It'll be a huge game for Canada to prove they're on the way up, and if the US isn't careful, they could get embarrassed in that one.
     
  16. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Memphis, Tn
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    cause concacaf, man. its a noun, a verb, an adjective, it means everything and nothing, it steals from the poor and gives to the rich.

    its motherconcacafing concacaf all up IN this concacafy concacaf
     
  17. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The silver lining for us (Haiti) is that Costa Rica aren't going to enjoy that field much, either...but it was bad for both sides, no excuses.
     
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  18. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    I'm aware of MLS (Cory Burke) and other sports' athletes having visa issues, but never heard of it in the context of an national team competition
     
  19. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are some recent soccer examples:

    https://www.socawarriors.net/mens-u...ed-visa-issues-for-u-20s-francis-beckles.html:

    Both Beal and Francis are two late additions to the team, hence the last-ditch efforts to seek visas for them, while Beckles was among the squad considered earlier in the campaign but was cut late by Latapy. Procupe said because an application was submitted earlier for Highley, she has been forced to continue her efforts to secure a visa for him.

    Procupe who was expected to submit the final list of 20 players to the Concacaf on Wednesday night, said if the visas are not secured in time for Sunday, the players will either make the trip at a later date or in a worst-case scenario, be replaced.

    http://ttfootball.org/2019/08/03/tt-to-face-costa-rica-in-concacaf-u-15-opener-tomorrow/:

    With Jamaica unfortunately failing to reach the tournament on schedule due to US Visa issues, some adjustments had to be made to the First Division fixtures, with T&T moving to its new group, Israel has been elevated from the second tier to fill our spot in group ‘A’. Also having issues with USA travel requirements are the Guatemalans who were unbale to secure Visas for some key players.

    https://wired868.com/2018/08/27/julien-ataulla-in-t-lawrence-selects-team-for-uae-friendly/

    Lawrence said Joseph was not chosen because he does not have a US visa.

    “We are passing through Miami to go and he doesn’t have a US visa,” said team manager Richard Piper, who explained that the plane tickets were being arranged by the host team.

    The majority of soccer visa issues happen with the Caribbean islands and some Central American countries, which don't have visa-free travel to the US. They don't usually have to get a work visa, but they need a standard tourist/business visa to enter the US. It can be a real journey for younger teams in poor countries as they have to scramble to get local passports and get to a US embassy/consulate to process.
     
  20. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Just to add on the recent example that I remembered (from last year's CONCACAF U20 qualifying, which we hosted last November).

    "Octavio Rodríguez, the assistant coach of the Guatemalan staff team and four players; ... were denied visas to participate in the tournament. A further seven players from Honduras were also denied visas."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_CONCACAF_U-20_Championship
     
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  21. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bermuda goes into Panama City and wins 2-0
     
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  22. Three and Three

    Sep 13, 2015
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    If the US isn't all business for that game, they'll lose. And then heads should roll. Where is our Roy Keane? Our Sir Alex?
     
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  23. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Who did they beat?
     
  24. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    ...Panama.
     
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  25. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Memphis, Tn
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    what city was it in?
     
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