2018 MLS Week 21 Referee Discussion

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  1. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    07/18/2018

    Minnesota United v New England Revolution
    TCF Bank Stadium (8PM ET)
    REF: Jose Carlos Rivero
    AR1: Eduardo Mariscal
    AR2: Kyle Longville
    4TH: Chico Grajeda
    VAR: Drew Fischer

    07/21/2018

    Atlanta United v D.C. United
    Mercedes-Benz Stadium (3:30PM ET)
    REF: Drew Fischer
    AR1: Corey Rockwell
    AR2: Brian Poeschel
    4TH: Guido Gonzales
    VAR: Kevin Stott

    Seattle Sounders v Vancouver Whitecaps
    CenturyLink Field (4PM ET)
    REF: Christopher Penso
    AR1: Cameron Blanchard
    AR2: Jeremy Hanson
    4TH: Farhad Dadkho
    VAR: Allen Chapman

    Chicago Fire v Toronto FC
    Toyota Park (7PM ET)
    REF: Sorin Stoica
    AR1: Jason White
    AR2: Peter Balciunas
    4TH: Rubiel Vazquez
    VAR: Armando Villarreal

    New York Red Bulls v New England Revolution
    Red Bull Arena (7PM ET)
    REF: Ismail Elfath
    AR1: Jeffrey Greeson
    AR2: Adam Garner
    4TH: Rosendo Mendoza
    VAR: Jorge Gonzalez

    Philadelphia Union v LA Galaxy
    Talen Energy Stadium (7PM ET)
    REF: Nima Saghafi
    AR1: Logan Brown
    AR2: Brian Dunn
    4TH: Alejandro Mariscal
    VAR: Alex Chilowicz

    Columbus Crew v Orlando City
    MAPFRE Stadium (7:30PM ET)
    REF: Silviu Petrescu
    AR1: Gianni Facchini
    AR2: Apolinar Mariscal
    4TH: Dave Gantar
    VAR: Jon Freemon

    Houston Dynamo v FC Dallas
    BBVA Compass Stadium (9PM ET)
    REF: Chico Grajeda
    AR1: Ian Anderson
    AR2: Eduardo Mariscal
    4TH: Tim Ford
    VAR: Alan Kelly

    Real Salt Lake v Colorado Rapids
    Rio Tinto Stadium (10PM ET)
    REF: Baldomero Toledo
    AR1: Felisha Mariscal
    AR2: TJ Zablocki
    4TH: Marcos Deoliveira
    VAR: Younes Marrakchi

    Portland Timbers v Montreal Impact
    Providence Park (11PM ET)
    REF: Fotis Bazakos
    AR1: CJ Morgante
    AR2: Chris Wattam
    4TH: Daniel Radford
    VAR: TBD

    07/22/2018

    Minnesota United v Los Angeles FC
    TCF Bank Stadium (7PM ET)
    REF: Ted Unkel
    AR1: Adam Wienckowski
    AR2: Jeremy Kieso
    4TH: Robert Sibiga
    VAR: Armando Villarreal



    I'm sure the US Open Cup assignments for the quarterfinals will be worth noting as well.
     
  2. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2 MassachusettsRef, Jul 18, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2018
    TBD in Portland is Katja Koroleva.

    USOC tonight:

    Philly-Orlando = Vazquez/Nelson/Richardson/Arroyo

    LAFC-Portland = Touchan/Kampmeinert/Jeff/Allatin

    Houston-Sporting KC = Chapman/Garner/Weed/Mendoza

    Chicago-Louisville = Saghafi/Bigelow/Arustamyan/Tattersall
     
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  3. Midwest Ref

    Midwest Ref Member

    Jul 25, 2002
    Penso with straight red for Juarez chest bumping him in Seattle-Vancouver 77th min.
     
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  4. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was so, so happy to see a red for that finally. It was getting ridiculous this year.
     
  5. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Close offside decision overturns a goal in Houston. It still took too long. Close to 3 minutes from the goal scored to being ruled out after an OFR (not sure why Grejada went to the screen). Do we know if the MLS VARs have the Hawkeye type lines for offside decisions? If they do, it should have been a pretty easy decision.

    [​IMG]
     
  6. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's a new instruction from PRO to go to the monitor on every review now, from what I've been told. Something about ambiguity.
     
  7. YoungRef87

    YoungRef87 Member

    DC United
    United States
    Jan 5, 2018
    That’s what Mark Geiger told us yesterday.
     
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  8. ChelseaSounder

    Nov 5, 2009
    Seattle, WA, USA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As Juarez was trying to argue the red, Penso just said, "get out."
     
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  9. jdmahoney

    jdmahoney Member

    Feb 28, 2017
    Plymouth, MN
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Shocking to see AR1 on Liverpool-Dortmund in what appears to be a knockoff of the old black shirt. You would think after receiving this assignment he would make sure to be prepared for it, also pretty sure OSI will express ship and/or give you the shirts(?) if you have a televised game so really no excuse for this.
     
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  10. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow you're right. I only caught a glimpse of it at halftime, but that was the old style black. I'll take your word for it that it was a knockoff. I can only hope that some sort of mistake or accident prevented him from wearing his new black.
     
  11. YoungRef87

    YoungRef87 Member

    DC United
    United States
    Jan 5, 2018
    I thought his uniform looked odd!
     
  12. jdmahoney

    jdmahoney Member

    Feb 28, 2017
    Plymouth, MN
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    It could be OSI, I just thought that the sleeve looked odd (more stripes than I think there is on the OSI one) and I haven’t seen anything to confirm it one way or the other. One can hope it was a mistake...
     
  13. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well I didn't expect to see that badge...

    [​IMG]
     
  14. YoungRef87

    YoungRef87 Member

    DC United
    United States
    Jan 5, 2018
    Who is this guy?
     
  15. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe Frank Anderson.

    I'm going to guess that either he forgot to pack his OSI black or it got damaged somehow. The fact that a FIFA AR and PRO center didn't care about mixing styles during an international broadcast game is pretty funny considering most of us aren't supposed to do it at the youth/HS levels. At least black is the right color to do it with.
     
  16. bhooks

    bhooks Member

    Apr 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The AR is Corey Parker
     
  17. jdmahoney

    jdmahoney Member

    Feb 28, 2017
    Plymouth, MN
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
  18. YoungRef87

    YoungRef87 Member

    DC United
    United States
    Jan 5, 2018
    Did anyone see the phantom penalty call in Orlando by Petrescu? Absolutely atrocious. He made the VAR signal twice and never went to the monitor.
     
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  19. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He seemed to be making it to assure the players it was being checked, but that's still poor mechanics, and he will probably be reminded not to do that unless there's an actual review or a call is being changed.
     
  20. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It gets worse every time I see it.
     
  21. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
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    May 25, 2006
    van dijk had a pretty clear back pass that was missed.
     
  22. sulfur

    sulfur Member+

    Oct 22, 2007
    Ontario, Canada
    The pool reported asked about it, and here are this responses:

    1020874232035725312 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  23. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like the assigning here. Too bad they couldn't get Felisha on the crew too.

    AS Roma - Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Referee: Alejandro Mariscal
    Assistant Referee 1: Apolinar Mariscal
    Assistant Referee 2: Eduardo Mariscal
    Fourth Official: Samantha Martinez
     
  24. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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