2018 CONCACAF U-20 Championship Running Thread: All Teams, All Games

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Oct 30, 2018.

  1. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anybody else watching Panama v Mexico? 0-0 right now, pretty even game. Obviously hoping for a Panama win.
     
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  2. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Panama hits the post. Still 0-0 18th minute.
     
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  3. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Mexico vs Panama are both tied for points, goals and even yellow cards. So it's an open question which will qualify to the final. Given their two tepid games against bigger countries (Jamaica and El Salvaldor) it's hard to say that Mexico is the big favorite. I'm comfortable already proclaiming that the US has won this qualifier as far as talent goes.

    To me, that brings up an important question. How is it possible that a country with a mature, rich league and a huge population not manage to break in to the top tier of talent generation? It certainly does not seem to be for lack of trying but the results are undeniable. In 40 years Mexico has only developed two players capable of playing for the top 10 clubs of Europe. The next question for the US is if we can get all the little things done right that
     
  4. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    GOAL PANAMA!!!!!
     
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  5. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Panama has an interesting strategy. They are peppering Mexico with shots, mostly wide (as in, they miss the goal and go out for a goal-kick), mostly from outside the 18, 25-30 yards out. If they hold on (knock on wood), the USA will have to be ready for that.
     
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  6. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Our U20s would destroy Mexico.
     
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  7. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2 for Panama!!!! Goal off of a corner in 1st half stoppage time!!!!
     
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  8. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Wow, who would have predicted this? Granted, they still have a half to come back, but still...
     
  9. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hard to know the motivation of a team that has met its primary goal and can go home by losing. (Same goes for the US).
     
  10. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Mexico has been held to one shot by Panama but has conceded 12. That is not lack of motivation. Even tactical mistakes don't cover that. This Panama is a better team.
     
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  11. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    The score is deserved. Panama looks better, bigger and faster.
     
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  13. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Mexico's problems shake me to the core. They are in many ways similar to us, in particular in how their league is set up. We need to understand what is happening or we may share this issue later on. The increased focus on US scouting seems to confirm that there is a problem. What is it?
     
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  14. autobus39

    autobus39 Member+

    Jun 28, 2006
    Scranton, PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    se la perdio
     
  15. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What a STUPID handball by Panama...
     
  16. autobus39

    autobus39 Member+

    Jun 28, 2006
    Scranton, PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mexico get a pk after what seems like a silly hand ball by the Panamanian defender.

    2-1 Panama 54'

    Mexico has come out in the second half like they are playing downhill.
     
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  17. autobus39

    autobus39 Member+

    Jun 28, 2006
    Scranton, PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2-2 60'

    I think Mexico is going through to the final on fair play points at the moment.
     
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  18. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Yep, they are through at the moment. I have to say that I may have overreacted on the first half. In my defense, the Jamaica game was thoroughly unconvincing. They have made a few tactical adjustments to bypass the midfield and have found their offensive rhythm. That's a good sign for a team.
     
  19. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I am now fully retracting this post. Mexico is showing full superiority now. I fell for the most obvious trap in Youth soccer. Kids are inconsistent.
     
  20. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They turned it on in the second half for sure. Still a very even game. If we beat Honduras, then I'd say we should be favored vs. Mexico.
     
  21. autobus39

    autobus39 Member+

    Jun 28, 2006
    Scranton, PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Panama off the post in the 90th
     
  22. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    So even a card can eliminate a team just as easily as a goal.
     
  23. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mexico will advance, but really they were only good for about 30 minutes. The rest of the time Panama basically outclassed them. First half, obviously, then for the last 15 as Mexico has been playing defensively as if they had a lead to protect (they will advance on "fair play points").
     
  24. autobus39

    autobus39 Member+

    Jun 28, 2006
    Scranton, PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2-2 FT

    Mexico advance to the final on fair play points (1 yellow card in the qualification round versus 2 for Panama).
     
  25. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That rule is dumb as hell. I'd rather another 30 minutes, I'm sure there would've been another goal in one of these teams at least...
     

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