2018/19 Daiju Sasaki @ Sociedade Esportiva Palmeiras (BRA)

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  1. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Too unreal to not make a thread !

    The backstory:
    https://www.90min.de/posts/6141145-...-daiju-sasaki-werder-bremen-hat-das-nachsehen
    A few days ago Werder Bremen let known through their SD that they were interested in Sasaki but basically he SD hinted that he was going somewhere else.

    Today it was announced that Sasaki is going on loan to Palmeiras, who also buys 30% of his rights
    https://globoesporte.globo.com/fute...te-japones-que-atua-no-clube-de-iniesta.ghtml



    Not sure how this will pay off honestly but too fun to not make a thread!
     
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  2. yanagibashi

    yanagibashi Member

    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Japan
    Jan 3, 2018
    very interesting. unexpected but good on him for taking this unconventional route. scored a fantastic goal against urawa this year, physically solid showed great potential in his few games.
     
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  3. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    Anyone know how does the Brazillian League compare with the European leagues? The bremen move would be better for him imo. He is not even getting much playtime with Kobe.
     
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  4. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
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    Either way it is a win-win situation for him. He has nothing to lose by moving to Palmeiras.
     
  5. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I have to disagree. He played little in Kobe but that's because he is a 99 anyway, let's see how much he plays here. Hope i'm wrong but i'm afraid it might be less. Plus, Werder looked genuinely interested and he would have had another japanese there to help settling, plus they are more used to japanese players. And last they even own 30% now so they will always have a say... hmmm... seems more the work of an agent interested in money and not much in the player, but hope i'm wrong and Palmeiras values him !
     
  6. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
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    Japan
    Again, he has nothing to lose.

    If he has anything to lose that I am unaware of, please tell me.

    He is still 19, not a starter at Vissel Kobe, he even does not make it to the bench so often.

    That said, even if he is given at Palmeiras the same amount of time he was given at Kobe, it will be great, considering his age.

    He will benefit from playing in one of Brazil's top clubs, get used to and learn from his experience in Brazil (hopefully add a Brazilian touch to his skill-set). Even if he does not play at all in Brazil and just train with the senior team, and get a valuable experience living abroad by his own at this young age, it will make him a stronger as a player and a person.

    In the case he came back to Japan next year with zero minutes played in Brazil (the worst case scenario), he will be still 20 and the future ahead of him, he could rejoin Vissel Kobe or join a European team (let it be Werder Bremen or any other club).

    A boy in his age might not opt for professional football to begin with, and might opt to join University instead, and many Japanese players did so and did not turn proffesional until they finish their University study (aging from 21-23). Consider him one of those players who spends at least 3 years in University before turning pro, he can go to Brazil for a year as it is University just to learn, and his real professional career will start after his Brazilian adventure.

    It's not like he is 21 or more, with either a starting spot at his club team, or at least he is making the bench every week and getting some valuable playing minutes.

    That's the point, he has nothing to lost not at all.
     
  7. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    I just don't see Palmeiras as a club where he would benefit that much even not playing at all instead of not playing much in Kobe (where he has Podolski and Iniesta to train with too). But maybe @GunnerTNB can give his opinion
     
  8. yanagibashi

    yanagibashi Member

    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Japan
    Jan 3, 2018
    if I remember correctly hiroki saki went some time at a much lesser brazilian club when he was nineteen as well.

    imho it’s better to spend time outside his comfort zone at a top brazilian club. you can only learn so much sitting on the bench without playing with iniesta.
     
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  9. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    #9 Dax, Aug 16, 2018
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2018
    In 2009 Hiroki trained for a Serie C club in Brazil from June to November.
    Hope this turns out well!
     
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  10. GunnerTNB

    GunnerTNB Member+

    Apr 4, 2011
    São Paulo
    Club:
    Botafogo Rio Janeiro
    Palmeiras is the biggest spending club in Brazil right now. They have a huge roster and an enormous pressure to win titles, so Sasaki is not likely to get playing time this season. The report from his signing says he is coming to the U-20 team. His best shot of first-team football is the Paulista Championship that starts in January.
     
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  11. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    @GunnerTNB
    U20 I guess ?
     
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  12. GunnerTNB

    GunnerTNB Member+

    Apr 4, 2011
    São Paulo
    Club:
    Botafogo Rio Janeiro
    Yes, his first official match for Palmeiras was in the Copa São Paulo (U-20, the most important youth tournament in the country).
     
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