2017 US Open Cup - Sporting KC [R]

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  1. kcfooty

    kcfooty Member

    Feb 16, 2011
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A thread for this competition.

    Looks like we are going to play a good deal of the senior team tomorrow night - per Twitter.
     
  2. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Ugh. As much as I love USOC, I wish we didn't have to contend with WCQ and Gold Cup callups. Looking ahead at our schedule and the call up schedules for Gold Cup...

    06/14; USOC Round 4 (Minnesota at home)
    06/17; @ San Jose
    06/24; @ Los Angeles
    06/28; USOC Round 5 (No Gold Cup Call Ups)
    07/01; Portland (No Gold Cup Call Ups)
    07/06; Philadelphia (No Gold Cup Call Ups)

    07/11; USOC Quarterfinals (No Gold Cup Call Ups)
    07/22; @ Real Salt Lake (No Gold Cup Call Ups)
    07/29; Chicago (No Gold Cup Call Ups)
    08/06; Atlanta

    08/09; USOC Semifinals

    It simply doesn't make sense to try to play that many games with our starters. I doesn't make sense to use our starters in the early rounds of USOC and then hope we can get by with the second team in later rounds. For me, with as much as we need rest, with as many of our guys who are in and out of the squad with injury or call ups, and with our potential schedule being laughably congested between now and 7/11, it just doesn't make sense to use our starters on USOC until the quarterfinals - if we made it that far.

    The way Vermes is approaching this... the next several months are going to be rough, and August and September have the potential to be catastrophic.
     
  3. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Accurate.
     
  4. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Vermes said no SPR call ups for tomorrow. How many players are going to play 270 minutes over the three games in these 8 days?
     
  5. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My thoughts for tomorrow, this would have only 2 potential starters on the weekend starting.

    Porter - Blessing - Salloi
    Medranda
    Mustivar - Ilie
    SAS - Didic - Ellis - Juliao
    Zendejas
     
  6. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    That's not as bad as I was thinking. I guess we cross our fingers and hope Minnesota isn't as effective against Juliao without Ibarra. I have a tendency to think a napkin and a gust of wind could make Juliao look silly, but that's just me.
     
  7. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    10 of 11 regular starters tonight against a mostly reserve Minnesota team.
     
  8. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Bummed about a lack of rest. Will be insanely outraged if they still manage not to win.
     
  9. siskoeva

    siskoeva Member

    Oct 31, 2011
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    4-0 entertaining with a couple minutes left.
     
  10. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Dallas, Colorado, or Chicago in the next round?
     
  11. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    What's the word on Greenspan?
     
  12. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    up 3-0 in the early rounds of the open cup ... you'd think we would take out some starters and give them some rest. instead, vermes puts IN feilhaber. ridiculous. it was stupid that our starters were even playing to begin with.
     
  13. SportingKCFan

    SportingKCFan Member

    Sep 2, 2010
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Agreed, I was stunned when we played that many starters and beyond words (ok, a few choice fx#! words did come to mind) when our first sub was Benny. I just cannot fathom Vermes' thinking.
     
  14. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    oh yeah, almost forgot, we should suspend gerso for that ridiculous dive in the first half. i know it'd kill our attack down the right side, but that was absurd. he must've taken two steps past the defender and then went to ground. it's one thing to dive when it's your only option (not that i actually want to consider cheating an "option"), but it's even more egregious when the better opportunity would result from staying on your feet. i mean, he was clear on goal. honestly, suspend him one game for bad simulation and bringing the game, and our club, into disrepute, and then suspend him another for terrible decision-making for diving instead of staying on his feet and having a clear chance at goal.

    yes, i'm being a bit hyperbolic, but damnit... i don't want to be that club. it's bad enough with dom's antics and flopping around up top every game, but now we've had latif and gerso doing it. enough already.
     
  15. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and why was roger out there? he was holding his back the entire game, and on the whole, has been pretty much garbage for us the last month. he had a couple nice moves/touches this game and put in his usual effort, but he's been giving the ball away with bad passes a ton this season. i think it would've done him a lot of good to not play for honduras (which he didn't) and then sit for last saturday and this game.
     
  16. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Haha, that's a classic move. Get fouled outside the box, but try to make it into the box before you fall down. Almost always results in a no call. Not sure why players try that. I can see why he's getting frustrated though. He's been getting fouled a lot.
     
  17. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Grouped with Dallas, Colorado, and Houston for the draw again... yawn. Playing the same teams year after year really is killing any excitement I have for this competition.
     
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  18. Soccer7947

    Soccer7947 Member

    Aug 15, 2005
    Kansas
    Can't you thank Bruce for that?
     
  19. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nice result and all, but Jesus, with the lineups, we'd better win that 4-0.

    I can understand Zusi and Besler starting - they've played a total of 1 minute in the last week and a half. But the rest of the guys? Nah. No need to start Dwyer. No need to start Opara. No need to start Melia. Or Ilie. Or Gerso. Or Medranda. Get those guys some rest. Use your USL call ups. Evaluate. Don't you even want to test your depth against a depleted Minnesota lineup? SMH.

    I mean... it's almost hard to be excited about the result when you consider the lineup and the fact that we just slipped another game into our congested schedule. The guys are going to be dead in a month.

    Trying to find a silver lining: that was the first game where Salloi started to show some signs of promise. He looked a lot more dangerous and good on him for a bagging a goal. His performance definitely deserved it last night.
     
  20. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Do we want to close this thread out and treat it as a game thread, creating a separate one for the game on the 28th, or combine all the USOC games in here?
     
  21. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Which will be at Houston.
     
  22. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think his sending a reserve team across country was the reason for the regions specifically.
     
  23. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    He was pretty vocal about his dislike of cross-country travel in the early stages of USOC. Bruce is the kind of guy that has enough clout with US Soccer than I saw more than just correlation when they started making the tournament more regionally based.
     
  24. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i'm fine with just leaving it all here.
     
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  25. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    why is this game at houston starting at 5:30?
     

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