2017 MLS Uniform/Kit Tracking Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by kyleburkholder, Feb 27, 2017.

  1. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    That is correct. Mostly. I think you mean red would clash more than the gray.

    Chicago may want to wear the gray to promote sales of their new shirt. The gray has enough contrast with yellow so it is allowed. Teams often have other motivations than just creating the most clash.
     
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  2. TheEmperor14

    TheEmperor14 BigSoccer Supporter

    May 31, 2011
    Down the road
    Club:
    Pohang Steelers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Assuming I remember all of this correctly and nothing has changed, here's how it goes...

    The default is the Primary home kit at home for every team. With the Primary for the visiting also being the most preferred option unless there is a clash. All of this happens 3-4 weeks before a game with finalization the week before and a Ref doing the eyeball check on them a couple of hours before the game.

    Teams do have a a chance to wear their Away kit at home (this is usually the FO people asking for it so they sell some) and if both teams, both Eqt Managers and Ref are ok with it, they can do this.

    Eqt Mangers pick the GK outfits and tell the league what their preferred option is based off of the kits selected for that game.

    Refs are told what to wear by the league, but can also have a say back to the teams and league in the week leading up to the game.

    There is a bit of gamesmanship that can go on here though. Eqt managers will pick certain colors to make sure the other teams GK can't wear their favorite or if a coach/team feels like a certain kit is lucky - it gets into the rotation more. Timbers third on their championship run 2 seasons ago is a good example of this. they wanted to wear it in the Cup game, but league said no.
     
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  3. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
    Staff Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who ultimately decides if there is a clash?
     
  4. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sure they just wanted to show off their NEW secondary jerseys. In the future if they can wear their primary (Red) jerseys on the road they will.
     
  5. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Much as I like the new Fire secondary kit (obligatory would've looked better with navy shorts here), I was disappointed to see them wearing it today. Columbus/Chicago games should always be yellow/red to me, except maybe for an Open Cup game or something.
     
  6. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    We are undefeated in the new grays so I am not going to say anything bad about them until we start losing.
     
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  7. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    I'm starting to wonder if there is some British/American English difference going on here with the word "clash."

    "So it's CHI's choice not to wear their primary red, even though it clashes less than the grey"

    "With the Primary for the visiting also being the most preferred option unless there is a clash."

    Two different posters have used the word clash in way that makes me think they mean the uniforms are too similar. I notice that one of them spells gray as "grey" so that makes me think British or possibly Canadian.

    This is what "clash" means to me in this context:

    Looking at the Oxford dictionary gives similar definitions.

    So I think that you would want the uniforms to be in conflict or disagree to clash. They wouldn't necessarily be offensive in combination but they certainly wouldn't be similar.

    So what's the deal?
     
  8. TheEmperor14

    TheEmperor14 BigSoccer Supporter

    May 31, 2011
    Down the road
    Club:
    Pohang Steelers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The league does at the beginning with the planning 3-4 weeks before the game and then the game referee has a final say the day of the game, but if there was possible confusion due to color (is the better than saying clash??) it should have been sorted in the weeks leading up to the game.
    With the league going to color Primary kits and white away, this will sort itself out as the white away (or very light colors) kits would become the standard away uniform. Just like NFL and college football.

    and I forgot- order of importance is Jerseys, socks and then shorts. Many teams have additional change shorts (NYCFC and their away Orange shorts) that may never see the light of day for whatever reason. But they are there.
     
  9. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Minnesota United @ Portland Timbers
    3/3/2017

    Home: Portland Timbers (primary, monochrome)
    Green
    Green
    Green

    Away: Minnesota United (secondary, white, monochrome)
    White
    White
    White

    [​IMG]
     
  10. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Chicago Fire @ Columbus Crew
    3/4/2017

    Home: Columbus Crew (primary, monochrome)
    Yellow
    Yellow
    Yellow

    Away: Chicago Fire (secondary, monochrome)
    Gray
    Gray
    Gray

    [​IMG]
     
  11. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    FC Dallas @ LA Galaxy
    3/4/2017

    Home: LA Galaxy (primary, white(p), monochrome)
    White
    White
    White

    Away: FC Dallas (primary)
    Red
    White
    Red

    [​IMG]
     
  12. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Toronto FC @ Real Salt Lake
    3/4/2017

    Home: Real Salt Lake (primary, monochrome)
    Red
    Red
    Red

    Away: Toronto FC (secondary, white)
    White
    Blue
    White

    [​IMG]
     
  13. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    New England Revolution @ Colorado Rapids
    3/4/2017

    Home: Colorado Rapids (primary)
    Red
    White
    Red/Blue

    Away: New England Revolution (secondary, white)
    White
    Red
    White

    [​IMG]
     
  14. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Sporting Kansas City @ DC United
    3/4/2017

    Home: DC United (primary, monochrome)
    Black
    Black
    Black

    Away: Sporting Kansas City (primary)
    Light Blue
    White
    Light Blue

    [​IMG]
     
  15. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Seattle Sounders @ Houston Dynamo
    3/4/2017

    Home: Houston Dynamo (primary)
    Orange
    White
    Orange

    Away: Seattle Sounders (primary)
    Green
    Green
    Blue

    [​IMG]
     
  16. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Montreal Impact @ San Jose Earthquakes
    3/4/2017

    Home: San Jose Earthquakes (primary, monochrome)
    Black
    Black
    Black

    Away: Montreal Impact (secondary, white, monochrome)
    White
    White
    White

    [​IMG]
     
  17. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    New York City @ Orlando City
    3/5/2017

    Home: Orlando City (primary, monochrome)
    Purple
    Purple
    Purple

    Away: New York City (primary)
    Light Blue
    White
    Light Blue

    [​IMG]
     
  18. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    New York Red Bulls @ Atlanta United
    3/5/2017

    Home: Atlanta United (primary)
    Red
    Black
    Black

    Away: New York Red Bulls (primary, white(p))
    White
    Red
    White

    [​IMG]
     
  19. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Philadelphia Union @ Vancouver Whitecaps
    3/5/2017

    Home: Vancouver Whitecaps (primary, white (p), monochrome)
    White
    White
    White

    Away: Philadelphia Union (primary, monochrome)
    Blue
    Blue
    Blue

    [​IMG]
     
  20. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    WeekGames2nd/3rd ShirtsNon-Primary,
    Home
    White ShirtsNon-Primary,
    White Shirts
    Monochrome Kits

    11123%0%27%14%55%
    Cumulative1123%0%27%14%55%


    The numbers are fairly consistent from last year on Non-Primary Shirts, White Shirts overall, and Monochrome. I have added the new categories for Non-Primary @ Home and Non-Primary White Shirts. We'll see how those go.

    HOU/SEA gets the Ofer award in this first week. ATL/NYR only had the Red Bulls white primary shirt holding them back. DCU/SKC and ORL/NYC were close
     
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  21. kyleburkholder

    Dec 4, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    South Africa
    Was there not more all-white than usual? Seemed like a lot based on my sheet (posting shortly)...but maybe that's normal and I just forgot.
     
  22. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    #47 newtex, Mar 6, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2017
    Minnesota, LAG, Montreal, and Vancouver wore all white. Are you counting Chicago because that gray was dark enough for me to count it as non-white? Toronto, New England, and Red Bulls also wore white shirts but not all white. So that was 7 white shirts or 32%. White shirts were worn 27% of the time last season.

    Whoops. I just realized I only had 6 white shirts on my spreadsheet. I'll fix that number.
     
  23. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    EDITED

    WeekGames2nd/3rd ShirtsNon-Primary,
    Home
    White ShirtsNon-Primary,
    White Shirts
    Monochrome Kits

    11123%0%32%18%55%
    Cumulative1123%0%32%18%55%


    The numbers are fairly consistent from last year on Non-Primary Shirts, White Shirts overall, and Monochrome. I have added the new categories for Non-Primary @ Home and Non-Primary White Shirts. We'll see how those go.

    CORRECTION: White shirts should have been 32% so that was more than the 27% average from last year. And one more non-primary white so that number went up to 18%.

    HOU/SEA gets the Ofer award in this first week. ATL/NYR only had the Red Bulls white primary shirt holding them back. DCU/SKC and ORL/NYC were close
     
  24. kyleburkholder

    Dec 4, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    South Africa
    Chicago is certainly non-white. So...just above average whiteness. We'll see what the early season shows as far as trends...
     
  25. kyleburkholder

    Dec 4, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    South Africa
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