2017/2018 Transfer Thread

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  1. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Yea but we were more effective with Doumbia being able to actually run, trap a soccer ball, get in behind defenses etc. About the only thing Dost is better at is heading the ball.
     
  2. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    I have faith in Doumbia, its his chance now to shine. In fact, considering the way we've been playing (very pragmatic) it could be the right time to play Doumbia who runs and presses more than Dost.
     
  3. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    He made a difference on Saturday in the Taca final. Also had a shot on goal yesterday. He's more mobile.
     
  4. AlexJones19

    AlexJones19 Member

    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    As much as I love Bas Dost, it might be a blessing in disguise having Doumbia up top for the Porto game.

    He’s not started very often so they will have to alter their game plan
     
  5. vilafria

    vilafria Member+

    Jun 2, 2005
    Good point. In yesterday's game you could easily see that Sporting has become predictable. Vitoria G. had their game plan down pat.
     
  6. SCP21

    SCP21 Member+

    Jul 1, 2011
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Youre all forgetting this is JJ were talking about. Hopefully he does the right thing and starts Doumbia, but something tells me hes giving the spot to Montero.
     
  7. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Or the fact that Dost has been a pylon the last couple of weeks. He's not a creator. Unless the ball lands on his or feet, he's invisible. That's why Slimani was great, he hustled and could create something out of nothing.

    Without Gelson, we need speed. Doumbia brings speed. Wish Podence was healthy. But even then, as @SCP21 mentioned, it's going to be Montero for some ungodly reason.
     
  8. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Montero has offered nothing yet. It's funny - JJ says Wendel, Misic are not ready and in the case of Wendel "this is all Chinese to him" yet Ruben and Montero play right away.

    The fact we have so many games means we have to use the full depth of our squad otherwise injuries are gonna pile up
     
  9. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Exactly. Wendel needs to play. Inter tried getting him on loan before the window closed. We declined. I assume we will be using him. Montero does nothing but get pushed around all game.
     
  10. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    This game really made me wonder what our transfer policy is. Do we even have one? I know the transfer window just closed, but truth is we've spent a record amount of money on players and a big reason we failed last season was that all of our signings (except Dost) were flops.

    Have the transfers this season been that much better? Have they contributed?
    • Bruno Fernandes - probably our best signing, although he looks fatigued but he's been our best signing
    • Marcos Acuna - started strong, got injured and his production went down
    • Wendel - has not played yet
    • Battaglia - alternated between good and bad
    • Doumbia - hardly an option for the coach
    • Piccini - alternated between good and bad
    • Lumor - has not played
    • Mattheus - loaned back out
    • Misic - has not played
    • Ristovski - rarely played but has been good when he's played
    • Coentrao - we knew he had quality and he's been surprisingly fit
    • Mathieu - same as Coentrao
    • Ruben Ribeiro - had an assist in the first game but since then has been bad
    • Salin - has barely played
    • Andre Pinto - has barely played
    • Montero - hasn't been very good so far
    We have a few good signings in Bruno, Coentrao and Mathieu and an OK signing in Acuna but the rest have either not been valid options or simply not been played.

    Which begs the question - why have such a large squad if you are going to run the same players into the ground? Could we not do some rotation in the League Cup and save our main players for the league games.
     
  11. vilafria

    vilafria Member+

    Jun 2, 2005
    To be fair, it was important to win a trophy, any trophy, and the top squad options was needed.
     
  12. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    No. No it's isn't. Focus is the league.
     
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  13. vilafria

    vilafria Member+

    Jun 2, 2005
    Are you advocating capitulation for today's game too ?
     
  14. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Sure. And so should JJ. Taca de Portugal means nothing right now. League title or bust.
     
  15. vilafria

    vilafria Member+

    Jun 2, 2005
    I disagree. The cups may realistic be the only attainable awards for this season. The league is too close and volatile . The squad has not really gelled to be as competitive as the direct rivals.
     
  16. natenate101

    natenate101 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 16, 2006
    California, US
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The transfer window should give teams a boost when adding talent, but it always seems to mess this club up.
     
  17. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Winter transfer window should be clear upgrades to the team.

    Ruben Ribeiro jumped into the team right away because he knows the league and was playing regularly, but is sort of "more of the same"

    Wendel was our biggest signing but seems to not be a preference for JJ.

    Misic even less.

    Montero was a last resort option - we were going to get Vietto who is miles better.

    Lumor was instantly burned by JJ.
     
  18. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Our club has again been transparent and detailedhow much we spent in the winter transfer window.

    Arrivals

    We spent a total of 15.85M euros in January. The majority was for Wendel, who cost 7.5M euros + 1.2M in commission fees (Fluminense keeps 10% of his rights)

    Josip Misic cost 2.75M euros + 500K in commission fees + Rijeka keeping 20% of any future profit

    Lumor was purchased from Portimonense for 2.5M for 50% of his rights + an option to buy 30% more for 1M euros

    Ruben Ribeiro cost 400K from Rio Ave.

    Fredy Montero came on a free transfer but still cost 1M in commissions.

    Departures

    Oriol Rosell
    to Orlando City for 500K euros + future 400K in objectives

    The rest are loans with options to buy:

    Iuri Medeiros loaned to Genoa for 1.5 seasons for 1M euros + obligatory transfer at the end of the loan period for 10M euros + we keep 20% of any future profit

    Jonathan Silva loaned to Roma until the end of the season for 500K euros + obligatory transfer at the end of the season for 5.7M euros + we keep 20% of his rights

    Alan Ruiz loaned to Colon in Argentina for 200K euros + optional transfer clause of 7M euros for 70% of his rights.

    Tobias Figueiredo loaned to Nottingham Forest for 200K euros + obligatory transfer for 2.3M euros (only if he completes objectives) + we keep 20% of his rights + we have a buy back clause.

    ---

    If we lucked out and sold everyone we have loaned out, we could make a total of 25M euros.
     
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  19. vilafria

    vilafria Member+

    Jun 2, 2005
    Should be a standard clause in any sale
     
  20. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Miguel Cardoso (Rio Ave coach) confirmed yesterday after the game that Marcelo (CB) would join Sporting in the summer.
     
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  21. SCP21

    SCP21 Member+

    Jul 1, 2011
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    can't see him doing much better than Andre Pinto. Hopefully we get a real back up/replacement for Matthieu
     
  22. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    This.
     
  23. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Tobias Figueiredo has made 7 appearance for Nottingham Forest and is 4 games away from actioning a clause where they have to pay the 2.3M transfer fee for him. Currently he's on loan.
     
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  24. natenate101

    natenate101 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 16, 2006
    California, US
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thread closed.
     

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