2017-2018 Swiss BCL [r]

Discussion in 'Austria & Switzerland' started by RobtheAggie, Jun 20, 2017.

  1. Arrows

    Arrows Member

    Vitoria SC/Belenenses/Aarau
    Portugal
    Oct 29, 2013
    Canada
    Club:
    FC Aarau
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Funny...these scenarios over licenses and possible relegation in the RSL has been far more entertaining this season then the actual BCL promotion race!

    BTW... I see what no love for Aarau and their title aspirations next season?
     
  2. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    Aarau, even if they win the title, won't be able to secure promotion to the Super League until the stadium situation gets sorted out. Every team outside of Servette and Vaduz have serious holes that prevent them from getting a Class II license.

    - Aarau: Stadium doesn't meet current Super League requiurements
    - Chiasso: Stadium doesn't meet current Challenge League requirements, plus financial issues
    - Rapperswil-Jona: Stadium doesn't meet current Challenge League requirements (re: lighting)
    - Schaffhausen: Club doesn't meet financial requirements for Class II
    - Wil: Stadium and finances don't meet current Super League requirements (stadium still technically doesn't really pass for BCL either because of lighting)
    - Winterthur: Stadium and finances don't meet current Super League requirements

    Whoever is relegated from the Super League already meet the requirements, so that's not an issue. Whoever gets promoted to the Challenge League (and it might be two teams) will certainly not meet stadium or financial requirements. Vaduz has already said that "Project 2018+" is going to see them be a little less ambitious towards making it back to the Super League for a few years, so they can try to develop players, so that eliminates them. Servette has the resources and stadium to go back up, and whoever gets relegated from the Super League will be an instant contender (unless it's Sion and CC decides he's had enough and walks away). It's a two horse race, and the current season hasn't even ended yet.
     
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  3. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good analysis. Sad to say that you are correct. It will essentially be either Servette or Lugano/LS/Sion. If Sion were releguated, I could see CC simply walking away. In that case it would be a long while before Sion would have the financial chops to make it in the RSL.
     
  4. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    27 April
    Vaduz - Winterthur

    28 April
    Aarau - Servette
    Wil - Schaffhausen

    29 April
    Rapperswil-Jona - Wohlen

    30 April
    Xamax - Chiasso
     
  5. Arrows

    Arrows Member

    Vitoria SC/Belenenses/Aarau
    Portugal
    Oct 29, 2013
    Canada
    Club:
    FC Aarau
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    If by some miracle they do win the title next season or for that matter any team who does not meet the stadium requirement for RSL would a ground share be allowed?
     
  6. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    4 May
    Xamax - Winterthur

    5 May
    Servette - Vaduz
    Wil - Rapperswil-Jona

    6 May
    Chiasso - Schffhausen

    7 May
    Wohlen - Aarau
     
  7. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    4 May
    Xamax - Winterthur 3-3

    5 May
    Servette - Vaduz 0-1
    Wil - Rapperswil-Jona 2-0

    6 May
    Chiasso - Schffhausen 2-0

    7 May
    Wohlen - Aarau 1-3


    9 May
    Vaduz - Wil
    Schaffhause - Xamax
    Winterthur - Chiasso

    10 May
    Rapperswil-Jona - Aarau
    Wohlen - Servette


    Prior to today's games

    Xamax 76
    Vaduz 54
    Schaffhausen 54
    Servette 53
    Rapperswil-Jona 50
    Wil 37
    Aarau 37
    Chiasso 33
    Winterthur 26
    Wohlen 18

    Servette needs to get a new manager for next season. Their spring has been pitiful. Just a reminder of the points at the break. Servette has only gained 18 points while Xamax has gained 30.

    Xamax 46
    Schaffhausen 36
    Servette 35
    Vaduz 26
    Rapperswil - Jona 23*
    Chiasso 20
    Aarau 18*
    Wohlen 13 *
    Winterthur 12
    Wil 11
     
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  8. Arrows

    Arrows Member

    Vitoria SC/Belenenses/Aarau
    Portugal
    Oct 29, 2013
    Canada
    Club:
    FC Aarau
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Just wonder what these numbers mean?
     
  9. Arrows

    Arrows Member

    Vitoria SC/Belenenses/Aarau
    Portugal
    Oct 29, 2013
    Canada
    Club:
    FC Aarau
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    According to the SFL.ch site since round 19 up until yesterday the standings would look like this (not counting the first 18 rounds)

    1. Xamax 8-6-1-30 points
    2. Vaduz 8-5-2-29
    3. Wil 7-6-2-27
    4. RJ 7-3-4-24
    5. Schaffhausen 7-0-8-21
    6. Aarau 6-1-7-19
    7. Winterthur 4-5-6-17
    8. Servette 3-6-5-15
    9. Chiasso 4-1-10-13
    10. Wohlen 0-5-9-5

    Wil and Vaduz have had nice second half.
     
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  10. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They were the points at the break.. Servette has had a terrible Spring.
     
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  11. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    9 May
    Vaduz - Wil 2-2
    Schaffhause - Xamax 1-0
    Winterthur - Chiasso 2-1

    10 May
    Rapperswil-Jona - Aarau 2-3
    Wohlen - Servette 1-3

    Xamax 76
    Schaffhausen 57
    Servette 56
    Vaduz 55
    Rapperswil-Jona 50
    Aarau 40
    Wil 38
    Chiasso 33
    Winterthur 29
    Wohlen 18
     
  12. Arrows

    Arrows Member

    Vitoria SC/Belenenses/Aarau
    Portugal
    Oct 29, 2013
    Canada
    Club:
    FC Aarau
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I think we will see Wil all in again next season. They have had a culture change since the winter break ended. A lot of community based programs and getting back in touch with the supporters. I don't think they have the money to spend like they did on the Turks a few seasons ago but if they can keep this group together and add a bit more they could make the BCL a little more interesting. I see LS coming down and NOT challenging next season to come back up....that club is in shambles!
     
  13. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope that next season Wil, Schaffhausen and RJ can make things interesting with Servette. LS is really in a mess right now. No clear direction. I would imagine a lot of turnover with players.
     
  14. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Leading goalscorers
    23 - Raphael Nuzzolo Xamax
    20 - Tunahan Cicek - Schaffhausen
    14 - Mychell Chagas - Servette
    13 - Helios Sessolo - Schaffhausen

    Leading Assists
    17 - Charles-Andrew Doudin - Xamax
    12 - Enrico Schirinzi - Vaduz

    Attendance
    3,137 Xamax (17)
    2,782 Winterthur (17)
    2,610 Aarau (17)
    2,240 Servette (17)
    1,635 Vaduz (17)
    1,313 Rapperswil-Jona (17)
    1,193 Schaffhausen (17)
    948 Wil (17)
    602 Wohlen (17)
    483 Chiasso (17)

    How can Chiasso continue to pay its bills with less than 500 per match. They have than 9k for the entire season!
     
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  15. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Stade Nyonnais and Chiasso will learn their fates this Friday. Both are trying to get their license on the 2nd try. UEFA, which owns/operates the Nyon stadium has said they will bring the stadium up to the standard that the Swiss Federation wants.
     
  16. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    LOL. UEFA can't even bring their stadium up to the standards they set.
     
  17. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    18 May
    Rapperswil-Jona - Xamax
    Vaduz - Chiasso
    Wil - Servette
    Winterthur - Aarau
    Wohlen - Schaffhausen

    Last match for Wohlen in the BCL and possible Chiasso.
     
  18. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    21 May
    Aarau - Vaduz
    Chiasso - Wohlen
    Schaffhausen - Winterthur
    Servette - RJ
    Xamax - Wil

    The line should have said last "matches".

    Fitting that Wohlen goes to Chiasso.
     
  19. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
  20. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For the 2nd time in two years, the SFF has awarded a club a license that publicly did not make sense. Last year Wil was awarded one, despite the well published and devastating financial situation. This year Chiasso has been awarded one, but Stade Nyonnias was not. So Chiasso stays up, despite averaging less than 500 a match for the season. To put it bluntly, there were more fans at the Xamax win over the weekend 9k than Chiasso had the entire season over 18 home dates.
     
  21. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    21 May
    Aarau - Vaduz 4-1
    Chiasso - Wohlen 3-0
    Schaffhausen - Winterthur 3-1
    Servette - RJ 0-3
    Xamax - Wil 6-3

    Xamax 85
    Schaffhausen 64
    Servette 62
    Vaduz 59
    RJ 56
    Aarau 44
    Wil 39
    Chiasso 36
    Winterthur 32
    Wohlen 18
     
  22. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Leading goalscorers
    26 - Raphael Nuzzolo Xamax
    21 - Tunahan Cicek - Schaffhausen
    16 - Helios Sessolo - Schaffhausen
    15 - Mychell Chagas - Servette

    Leading Assists
    19 - Charles-Andrew Doudin - Xamax
    12 - Enrico Schirinzi - Vaduz

    Attendance
    3,475 Xamax
    2,817 Winterthur
    2,621 Aarau
    2,206 Servette
    1,637 Vaduz
    1,341 Rapperswil-Jona
    1,241 Schaffhausen
    949 Wil
    628 Wohlen
    478 Chiasso

    Only two clubs had there average attendance drop over the final two weeks. Chiasso and Servette.
     
  23. Arrows

    Arrows Member

    Vitoria SC/Belenenses/Aarau
    Portugal
    Oct 29, 2013
    Canada
    Club:
    FC Aarau
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    When it's put that way that is quite sad!
     
  24. Arrows

    Arrows Member

    Vitoria SC/Belenenses/Aarau
    Portugal
    Oct 29, 2013
    Canada
    Club:
    FC Aarau
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    In the end Schaffhausen put together a nice little season. Their placement more probably to do with certain teams giving up but still 2nd place! Does anyone think that they could build on this and challenge for promotion to the RSL next season? Nice little stadium and not a bad team if they can keep certain players and a few who knows....
     
  25. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    I wouldn't count on it. Schaffhausen does not have the financial resources to get a Super League license, nor do they have the type of academy setup that is required. I also wouldn't be surprised if most of those good players are elsewhere next year.

    There's only one team going up next year, and that's Servette. They're the richest of the teams, and they'll be rebuilding. Lausanne won't be ready to compete to go back up, and the only other side with a Class II license is Vaduz, and they're going to be middle of the pack unless it all clicks with their younger local players.
     

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