2016 USL Attendance thread

Discussion in 'United Soccer Leagues' started by 30King, Mar 26, 2016.

  1. pletch99

    pletch99 Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Winchester, England
  2. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bethlehem - 2,560
    Harrisburg - 2,316 (first game at FNB Field)
     
  3. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    @ Irvine: 214 :(

    @ Charlotte: ??? :cautious:
    @ Pittsburgh: 1,711 :giggle:
    @ Wilmington: ??? :thumbsdown:
    @ Harrisburg: 2,316 :barefoot:
    @ Los Dos: 527 :rolleyes:

    @ Colorado Springs: ??? :ninja:
    @ Rochester: 5,124 :whistling:
    @ OKC: 5,690 :sneaky:
    @ Tulsa: 4,078 :coffee:
    @ SLC: 1,185 :confused:
    @ Sacto: 11,589 :thumbsup:

    @ Bethlehem: 2,560 :geek:
    @ Toronto: ??? :mad:
     
  4. eb684

    eb684 New Member

    Jan 29, 2011
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
  5. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    867 in Harrisburg.... Monday night game following a Friday game.... can't be that upset.
     
  6. CharlottetownFC

    Sep 2, 2015
    Club:
    Charlotte
    I read 1914 as the attendance for Charlotte v Richmond in the YouTube thread for that game, do not hold me to that as an accurate figure though.
     
  7. Rampage

    Rampage Member

    May 8, 2012
    The Rochester crowd looked closed to legit (about 5,000). I was at the game. In previous years they may have reported that as 6,500 or so.
     
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  8. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm gonna tell you what: this shit was a whole lot easier before there were all these damn teams in the league. :)
     
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  9. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Remember when people were going to those games because they had a different brand than the parent club? Good times.
     
  10. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No one says it's everything.

    It's worth nothing. It's worth tracking. It's fun to talk about.

    It's not everything.

    It's still the bulk of most teams' revenues, which is as close an indicator of overall health as we're likely to get. (Not in all cases, obviously, because some teams are not set up to be revenue-generators.)

    We've spent a whole lot of the last (nearly) 17 years that I've been here with legitimate questions about the long-term viability of a large portion (and, for a while, a majority) of the professional soccer clubs in this country, and attendance was one way we made guesstimates about the chances that a given club could continue to exist.

    Slowly, those questions are faded, level by level. No one worries about MLS or an MLS club going out of business anymore (with caveats like Chivas USA). Division II hasn't lost a club in a few years (though some are still precarious). Division III has even stabilized.

    So it's perhaps slightly less of a grab-your-chest-when-you-see-a-low-number situation than it used to be, but it's still a reasonable indicator of most teams' overall chances of long-term survival.

    But no one, to my knowledge, thinks it's everything.
     
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  11. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, wait. Forget what I said before. In context, I see what you're saying.

    The fact Cincinnati has done great for their first two home games is not the only thing MLS will look at when determining where to play its (more limited now) expansion cards.

    You're right. It's not.

    It makes for a delicious tension that the league loves to have because it helps them in the Stadium Game. Any time they appear to have more viable suitors for spots than there are actual spots, it helps MLS.

    But they're not going to go only by that when they decide which cities get clubs 25-28, you're completely right.

    In 2000, this place was full of "Why have a league at all if you're not going to let Rochester in?" nonsense because Rochester was outdrawing a couple of underperforming MLS clubs. We all know how that turned out, and why.

    MLS will expand to the markets and with the owners and stadium plans or solutions that make the most sense for MLS. (And it won't be Garber's decision alone. That bit of shorthand is misleading. The BOG makes those decisions and they have proven to be fairly diligent about it.)
     
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  12. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So by my count, as we wrap up April here, I think we're missing the following games:

    3/25/2016 Sacramento at Seattle
    3/26/2016 Toronto at New York
    3/26/2016 FC Cincinnati at Charleston
    3/26/2016 Rio Grande Valley at Tulsa
    4/01/2016 Richmond at Wilmington
    4/02/2016 Harrisburg at Charlotte
    4/02/2016 LA at Real Monarchs
    4/02/2016 Saint Louis at Orange County
    4/03/2016 San Antonio at Seattle
    4/09/2016 Toronto at Montreal
    4/10/2016 Bethlehem at New York
    4/12/2016 Rio Grande Valley at Seattle
    4/13/2016 San Antonio at LA
    4/15/2016 Arizona United at Real Monarchs
    4/16/2016 Charleston at Charlotte
    4/16/2016 San Antonio at Orange County
    4/17/2016 Rochester at New York
    4/17/2016 Colorado Springs at Seattle
    4/17/2016 OKC at Vancouver
    4/22/2016 Richmond at Charlotte
    4/22/2016 New York at Wilmington
    4/24/2016 Cincinnati at Toronto
    4/26/2016 Seattle at Real Monarchs
    4/27/2016 Pittsburgh at Louisville
    4/27/2016 Vancouver at Swope Park
     
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  13. JoeCelt

    JoeCelt Member+

    Jul 7, 2012
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina

     
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  14. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
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  15. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Haven't seen yet what Arizona announced (I was there, but have no idea).

    But here's someone else's picture:

    [​IMG]
     
  16. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. pletch99

    pletch99 Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Winchester, England
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  18. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How long will the sellout streak last with Paul Buckle running the team into the ground?
     
  19. JoeCelt

    JoeCelt Member+

    Jul 7, 2012
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Rochester - 2,513
    Richmond - 3,655
    Charleston - 4,149
    Rio Grande - 2,431
     
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  20. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Arizona: 3,374

    Games in Colorado Springs and St. Louis ppd by weather, which makes, I believe, three this month.
     
  21. QuietType

    QuietType Member+

    Jun 6, 2009
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Overall great numbers around the league - is this the highest median attendance for one week?
     
  22. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    With Rochester reporting 2.5k??
     
  23. rochesterian80

    Mar 28, 2013
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    There are new owners -- who bought the team 45 days before the season -- with different "reporting methods" than the previous ownership. While it actually worked out really well, they had lots of food trucks and few concessions stands for the opener (3 of the 5 were closed). A new one opened yesterday. A lot of great stuff is on the horizon -- kids area, a beer garden, expanded concessions, etc. But with 45 days to sell tickets, sponsorships, take over concessions, etc, it's all going to take time. Heck, the new ticketing system was in place about two weeks before the season. And, frankly, after the way the team was operated previous (let's say cash strapped), it's going to take a little time and some nudging to get people to return. I'm confident they can and will do it, though.
     
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  24. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Median of 3,655 for this week (missing three games from earlier) is not even the highest median for this season. Week 3's median was 4,011 (again, missing three games).

    Last year's highest median for a week was 4,741 in week 24 (last week of August).
     
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  25. QuietType

    QuietType Member+

    Jun 6, 2009
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bummer. Was hoping the lack of "a few hundred" attendances would make that higher this week. There needs to be a magical week where all of the highest attended teams have home games...
     

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