2016 USL Attendance thread

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  1. Prosoccercdn

    Prosoccercdn Member+

    Aug 6, 2011
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Country:
    Canada
    Sept 10 Saturday :

    1306 at Charlotte
    7362 at Louiville
    1371 at Swope
    2087 at RGV
    1417 at LA2

    Sept 11 Sunday :

    1300 at Toronto

    And most of the rest from September 1st on with no attendance listed on the Usl website.
     
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  2. Traumer

    Traumer Member

    Feb 25, 2016
    Cincinnati
    Someone I know posted this elsewhere. This is NOT mine, and not sure if the numbers are entirely accurate, but like seeing multiple leagues compared. Also, they broke USL into USL and "MLS2" for some reason.

    [​IMG]
     
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  3. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Looks fairly accurate except for the low number of games for some of the teams. That should be at around 13 or 14 for every team except Puerto Rico who started in July.

    Other niggles:

    1. Cincinnati is misspelled. Pet peeve since I grew up near there.
    2. San Antonio is listed as a continuation of the NASL Scorpions. That is not the case.
    3. How did some of the these teams have over 100% or even 200% declines in attendance? That would mean they now draw negative numbers of fans. Kind of makes me wonder about the math being used. Fort Lauderdale, for instance, went from drawing around 4,400 last year to 1,452 this year. That is a 67% decline, not 210%.
     
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  4. Traumer

    Traumer Member

    Feb 25, 2016
    Cincinnati
    1. High five!

    3. Yeah, I would think 100% decline would mean 0 people attended. Guessing they mixed up decreases with increase mathematics.
     
  5. Traumer

    Traumer Member

    Feb 25, 2016
    Cincinnati
    [​IMG]

    Could push for the record this weekend. In any event expect great atmosphere.
     
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  6. C-Rob

    C-Rob Member

    May 31, 2000
    Looking ahead a bit to next season, I could see T2's attendance increasing significantly. T2 will be moving the majority of their home matches to Providence Park beginning next season. Back in the MLS Reserve League, the Timbers reserve team averaged around 8,000 in attendance at then-PGE Park, so there is precedent. The only caveat is that the Thorns could eat into that number. Regardless, I suspect T2s attendance should be markedly higher during 2017.
     
  7. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
    Club:
    Cork City
    As a T2 season ticket holder, I can not see us getting 8,000 often. But there will be an increase over this year, wont play home games at the same time as first team for a start. Crowd's could also increase further if 1. the results improve 2. They lower the cost of beer (back when Timbers were in the USL they used have Thirsty Thursdays and had big crowds for the USL) 3. Double headers with MLS team, Thorns, U23 team could help too (although T2 were a 4pm kickoff on a weeknight before the Timbers US Open cup game and T2 crowd was lower, at least till near the end of the game)
     
  8. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Country:
    United States
    Imitators. Oy.



    :)
     
  9. Traumer

    Traumer Member

    Feb 25, 2016
    Cincinnati
    [​IMG]

    Big night as win means get a home playoff match and we set the USL attendance record again! What an amazing inaugural season it has been. Cannot wait for playoffs!
     
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  10. i_hoodboy

    i_hoodboy New Member

    Sep 4, 2016
    Club:
    Northampton Town FC
    Real Monarchs 9/14: 1,963
     
  11. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Country:
    United States
    Cincinnati finishes with a(n obvious) record average for D3 of 17,296.

    Other good crowds tonight:
    Richmond got a season-high 6,123 to finish at 3,996.
    St. Louis got a record 6,004 to finish at 4,923.
    And the usual 11,569 in Sacramento gets them to a final average of 11,514.

    At the other end of things...

    Arizona draws 1,239 tonight and finishes averaging 1,460.
    Charlotte's 1,471 tonight gets them to 1,375 for a final average.
    Harrisburg moved to some small college and drew 527, and finish at 1,526.
     
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  12. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Country:
    United States
    Clubs whose home seasons are over, but for which I'm missing data:

    Colorado Springs (missing 4)
    New York (missing 5)
    San Antonio (missing 2)
    Seattle (missing 1)
    Toronto (missing 3)
     
  13. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Country:
    United States
    Check that....6,735 in San Antonio tonight gets them to a final average of 6,198. (FWIW, the Scorpions averaged 6,736 last year.)
     
  14. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Country:
    United States
    A few teams responded to requests for missing games. Others have not. So I'm missing 45 games, or about 10% of the total.

    Here are the games I'm missing, if anyone has any handy:

    Bethlehem
    9/04/2016 vs New York
    9/18/2016 vs Pittsburgh
    9/25/2016 vs Orlando

    Colorado Springs
    5/27/2016 vs Orange County
    8/11/2016 vs Tulsa

    Montreal
    6/26/2016 vs Orlando
    7/09/2016 vs New York
    8/06/2016 vs Richmond
    8/10/2016 vs Pittsburgh
    9/03/2016 vs Louisville
    9/07/2016 vs Charleston
    9/24/2016 vs Harrisburg

    Harrisburg
    9/07/2016 vs New York (Originally a New York home game, moved)

    New York
    5/28/2016 vs Pittsburgh
    6/09/2016 vs Harrisburg
    7/23/2016 vs Charleston
    8/19/2016 vs Louisville
    8/28/2016 vs Cincinnati

    OKC
    7/23/2016 vs Tulsa
    9/11/2016 vs Seattle
    9/18/2016 vs Swope Park
    9/24/2016 vs Saint Louis

    Orange County
    6/04/2016 vs Seattle
    7/30/2016 vs LA Galaxy II
    8/07/2016 vs Arizona
    8/20/2016 vs LA Galaxy II
    9/17/2016 vs Rio Grande Valley
    9/24/2016 vs Colorado Springs

    Orlando
    5/28/2016 vs Charlotte
    7/24/2016 vs Wilmington
    8/21/2016 vs Richmond
    9/03/2016 vs Pittsburgh

    Pittsburgh
    8/13/2016 vs Bethlehem
    9/24/2016 vs Cincinnati

    Rio Grande Valley
    6/11/2016 vs OKC
    6/26/2016 vs Orange County
    8/06/2016 vs OKC
    9/24/2016 vs San Antonio FC

    Rochester
    5/28/2016 vs Bethlehem
    7/10/2016 vs Orlando
    8/06/2016 vs Wilmington
    9/24/2016 vs Toronto FC II

    Wilmington
    6/03/2016 vs Harrisburg
    9/07/2016 vs Orlando
    9/11/2016 vs Cincinnati
     
  15. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Country:
    United States
    NY= ???
    Pitt= 2,947
    Orl= 3,655
     
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  16. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Country:
    United States
    Many thanks.

    Bethlehem finishes averaging (with one game missing) 2,531 per game.

    A bit better than this guy's prediction:

    bethlehem_prediction_by_genius.jpg
     
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  17. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Country:
    United States
    Overall I'd say the first season was a decent performance attendance-wise, but not great.... the ceiling for a team in the Lehigh Valley should be higher than what they averaged....

    the fact that they never hit 4K this season is disappointing... they should be a team that hits 5K once in awhile IMO.
     
  18. USRufnex

    USRufnex Member+

    Tulsa Athletic / Sheffield United
    United States
    Jul 15, 2000
    Tulsa, OK
    Club:
    --other--
    9/21 - 2,449 in Tulsa
    9/24 - 4,158 in Tulsa

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. Traumer

    Traumer Member

    Feb 25, 2016
    Cincinnati
  20. Prosoccercdn

    Prosoccercdn Member+

    Aug 6, 2011
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Country:
    Canada
    They won't post the bad news, especially those averaging in the hundreds per game and quite a few between the 1000-2000 average.

    So average per game attendance for 2016 is 3439.
    Last season was 3369 if I recall so a very small increase.
     
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  21. chungachanga

    chungachanga Member

    Dec 12, 2011
    although Rochester numbers stand out. 3.7k and that's according to them an 11% increase over last year. You think it's a mistake or some legit "paid tickets" number?
     
  22. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Country:
    United States
    I am missing four Rochester numbers, so I don't know what to make of them.

    I have asked for the missing numbers, but anyone who could write this bit of genius is probably teaching English at SUNY-Cortland or something and unable to respond at the moment.

    They averaged an announced 5,570 last year, so 3,786 (which is what I have for the 11 games I have data for) would be a substantial decrease. The league release said Rochester's final average was 3,655, so it's even lower than what I have.

    The league's release this week about its attendance notes its total attendance was up 33 percent (they also played 30% more games this year than last). So, fine. But even with the missing numbers, the average isn't 33% higher this year than last. (If it's really 3,440, based on their professed total, it's about 75 more folks per game.)

    My numbers and the league's numbers apparently disagree on San Antonio, Charleston and Tulsa, but not by a lot. (This is not surprising - teams routinely alter numbers from when they initially hit the box score.)

    As for the Rhinos, they've always been a strange situation. Back in the day, they were packing them in, but the owners were playing fast and loose with bills and things, so it's not out of the realm of possibility that the numbers were even less accurate than most. I have no idea.

    But people who live in Rochester say the difference between what's announced and what they perceive is large. My most recent experience was 2011 when we did a few USL Games of the Week from there, and I was disappointed with how many people were there. I don't remember what they announced, though I could check were I so inclined.
     
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  23. Traumer

    Traumer Member

    Feb 25, 2016
    Cincinnati
    [​IMG]

    Guaranteed new attendance record to be set tomorrow now. Curious what walk up crowd will be like, maybe 27,000 by kick off?
     
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  24. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Country:
    United States
    Playoffs last night:
    1,885 in Kansas City
    2,405 in Colorado Springs
     
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  25. socceralpha

    socceralpha New Member

    Jul 24, 2012
    Well, I do not know if the attendance numbers are correct. But a first look at the variation shows that the person who composed this table has certainly not used the formula '(absolute change in attendance/attendance 2015)*100'. I guess that he expresses everything in terms of the attendance in 2016 (i.e. he divides by that number).
     

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