2016-17 CCL Qualifiers [R]

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  1. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Pachuca, Hidalgo
    Club:
    Club América
    Country:
    Mexico
    So if Tigres reaches the liga mx final; Monterrey :thumbsup:
     
  2. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    Two updates from today: first, it's every club for itself in Mexico now, as the rayados eliminated archrival Tigres from the Clausura playoffs.

    Second, Alajuelense still can't get past level 29 in the Costa Rican league :)p), losing 2-0 at Herediano (3-0 aggregate) to hand the florenses yet another club title and CCL berth. Mind you, before David Patey stepped in to stabilize the club, they were on a Cruz Azul-esque trophy drought mixed with unpaid debts and salaries, so the current run is spectacular by their standards.

    2016-17 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Vancouver Whitecaps [CAN]
    2. Sporting Kansas City [USA]
    3. FC Dallas [USA]
    4. New York Red Bulls [USA]
    5. Árabe Unido [PAN]
    6. Pumas UNAM [MEX]
    7. Portland Timbers [USA]
    8. Tigres UANL [MEX]
    9. Honduras Progreso [HON] *
    10. Antigua GFC [GUA] *
    11. Alianza [SLV]
    12. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC]
    13. Police United [BLZ] *
    14. W Connection (TRI) [CFU]
    15. Central FC (TRI) [CFU]
    16. Don Bosco (HAI) [CFU] *
    17. Herediano [CRC]
     
  3. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    Plaza Amador, the only grande in Panama yet to play in the Champions League, are now only one step away from earning their ticket after hammering Árabe Unido 3-0 in the second leg of their Clausura semifinal.

    ...although that won't be the biggest talking point from last night.

     
  4. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    In Honduras, Olimpia will take on Real Sociedad in the Clausura final, with the games set for Wednesday and Sunday.
     
  5. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Country:
    Croatia
    So there could be two debut teams from Honduras. Nice, it's the same as both perennial representatives and fresh teams are uncompetitive since competition changed it's format (1/8 qualified to the knock-out stages). :D
     
  6. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    And in Mexico: if América want to match Monterrey's record of three straight Champions League titles, they'll have to beat Monterrey themselves to qualify. The other Clausura semifinal pits two of Carlos Slim's playthings against each other as Pachuca take on León.
     
  7. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
  8. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    It was a night for the old-hands: in Nicaragua, Real Estelí called their hiatus at one year as El Tren del Norte beat Walter Ferretti 1-0 (1-0 agg.) to claim the Clausura title and the CCL ticket.

    Afterwards, a truly titanic showdown of the only teams in the region with multiple Champions League titles under their belt ended in Monterrey's favor, as the regios saw off América 4-2 (4-3) agg to reach the Clausurs final. Sorry @jared9999 , but while the Azteca is the more historic venue, there was simply nothing like continental nights at the Tec, and this rayado fanbase that embraced this tournament like few others in Mexico deserved to bring it to their new digs.

    2016-17 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Vancouver Whitecaps [CAN]
    2. Sporting Kansas City [USA]
    3. FC Dallas [USA]
    4. New York Red Bulls [USA]
    5. Árabe Unido [PAN]
    6. Pumas UNAM [MEX]
    7. Portland Timbers [USA]
    8. Tigres UANL [MEX]
    9. Honduras Progreso [HON] *
    10. Antigua GFC [GUA] *
    11. Alianza [SLV]
    12. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC]
    13. Police United [BLZ] *
    14. W Connection (TRI) [CFU]
    15. Central FC (TRI) [CFU]
    16. Don Bosco (HAI) [CFU] *
    17. Herediano [CRC]
    18. Real Estelí [NCA]
    19. CF Monterrey [MEX]
     
  9. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    Looks like we will have to hold off on Nicaragua for it: I asked for an open clarification on the Facebook page of FutbolNica, and the commenters there unanimously informed me that now the CCL berth is awarded to the winner of the Season Final betweeb the Apertura and Clausura winners (when distinct).

    2016-17 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Vancouver Whitecaps [CAN]
    2. Sporting Kansas City [USA]
    3. FC Dallas [USA]
    4. New York Red Bulls [USA]
    5. Árabe Unido [PAN]
    6. Pumas UNAM [MEX]
    7. Portland Timbers [USA]
    8. Tigres UANL [MEX]
    9. Honduras Progreso [HON] *
    10. Antigua GFC [GUA] *
    11. Alianza [SLV]
    12. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC]
    13. Police United [BLZ] *
    14. W Connection (TRI) [CFU]
    15. Central FC (TRI) [CFU]
    16. Don Bosco (HAI) [CFU] *
    17. Herediano [CRC]
    18. CF Monterrey [MEX]
     
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  10. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    In Honduras, Real Sociedad tied the series before collapsing in the last 20 minutes to fall 3-1 (5-2 agg.) to Olimpia, the only club left with a perfect attendance record in the CCL (Isidro Metapán were eliminated in the Salvadoran Clausura semifinals).

    Now then, brace yourselves: the unthinkable has happened.

    Yes, Plaza Amador has FINALLY qualified for the Champions League, ending their Chivas-esque run of futility by defeating Chorrillo 1-0 in the Clausura final.

    2016-17 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Vancouver Whitecaps [CAN]
    2. Sporting Kansas City [USA]
    3. FC Dallas [USA]
    4. New York Red Bulls [USA]
    5. Árabe Unido [PAN]
    6. Pumas UNAM [MEX]
    7. Portland Timbers [USA]
    8. Tigres UANL [MEX]
    9. Honduras Progreso [HON] *
    10. Antigua GFC [GUA] *
    11. Alianza [SLV]
    12. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC]
    13. Police United [BLZ] *
    14. W Connection (TRI) [CFU]
    15. Central FC (TRI) [CFU]
    16. Don Bosco (HAI) [CFU] *
    17. Herediano [CRC]
    18. CF Monterrey [MEX]
    19. Olimpia [HON]
    20. Plaza Amador [PAN] *
     
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  11. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    Finally, Pachuca held serve at home, defeating León 2-1 (3-2 agg.) to round out the list of favorites - I mean, Mexican representatives in the next CCL.

    The last three qualifiers will be the Clausura winners in Guatemala and El Salvador and the full-year champ in Nicaragua. I suspect all three Finals will wrap up next weekend...when I will be mostly offline, visiting the Peru/Chile border. @slaminsams @Popol Vuh @EvanJ @dinamo_zagreb it's all on you! :D

    2016-17 CCL Qualifiers

    1. Vancouver Whitecaps [CAN]
    2. Sporting Kansas City [USA]
    3. FC Dallas [USA]
    4. New York Red Bulls [USA]
    5. Árabe Unido [PAN]
    6. Pumas UNAM [MEX]
    7. Portland Timbers [USA]
    8. Tigres UANL [MEX]
    9. Honduras Progreso [HON] *
    10. Antigua GFC [GUA] *
    11. Alianza [SLV]
    12. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC]
    13. Police United [BLZ] *
    14. W Connection (TRI) [CFU]
    15. Central FC (TRI) [CFU]
    16. Don Bosco (HAI) [CFU] *
    17. Herediano [CRC]
    18. CF Monterrey [MEX]
    19. Olimpia [HON]
    20. Plaza Amador [PAN] *
    21. CF Pachuca [MEX]
     
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  12. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    United States
    I couldn't find the dates for the Guatemalan and Salvadoran finals, but they have to be soon because the draw is May 30, unless they will draw clubs from countries without knowing what club that will be.
     
  13. slaminsams

    slaminsams Member+

    Mar 22, 2010
    El Salvador's final will be May 29
     
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  14. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Pachuca, Hidalgo
    Club:
    Club América
    Country:
    Mexico
    Seems like its harder to win the double in Mexico than it is to win the treble in Europe! @Nico Limmat ;):coffee:
     
  15. slaminsams

    slaminsams Member+

    Mar 22, 2010
    Come on now
     
  16. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Pachuca, Hidalgo
    Club:
    Club América
    Country:
    Mexico

    Well it hasn´t happen in the CCL era, while the treble in Europe is pretty much a yearly thing now:whistling:
     
  17. slaminsams

    slaminsams Member+

    Mar 22, 2010
    Who's winning the treble this year? Maybe you're defining it differently
     
  18. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Pachuca, Hidalgo
    Club:
    Club América
    Country:
    Mexico
    ....
     
  19. slaminsams

    slaminsams Member+

    Mar 22, 2010
    Just because a super team like barcelona or bayern are special enough to occasionally pull it off hardly means it happens every year. Besides the whole argument is silly
     
  20. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Pachuca, Hidalgo
    Club:
    Club América
    Country:
    Mexico
    2010, 2011, :coffee: Yes its silly lets move on
     
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  21. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    So apparently I was right the first time: CONCACAF announced the draw procedure today, and they have Real Estelí as already being qualified.

    The confusion seems to have sprung from FENIFUT initially announcing that the Season Final winner would get the CCL berth rather than the half-season champ with the most points in the full-year table. Thus, CONCACAF overruled FENIFUT, either because 1) the Season Final was too close to the draw (unlikely, since the Guatemalan and Salvadoran Clausura tournaments will wrap up next weekend), 2) FENIFUT didn't properly notify CONCACAF in time or 3) CONCACAF holds its "half-season champ w/most points in the full-year table" measure above amendment by the federations within UNCAF.

    For those of you who don't remember: ahead of the first CCL (2008-09), CONCACAF obligated all Central American leagues to carry out Season finals between Apertura and Clausura winners (when distinct) to determine CCL berths and seeding, whether or not they already did so. Probably facing pushback for this, CONCACAF switched to the current full-year table measure and has stuck with it since.

    Thus: Estelí is in, and UNAN can rightfully be upset - but with its own federation.
     
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  22. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Country:
    Croatia
    Guatemala
    It's Suchitepequez or Comunicaciones. Comunicaciones won game #1 by 2-1, Suchitepequez hosts the leg #2 on Sunday. Comunicaciones has 4 appearances in the competition while Suchitepequez is yet to qualify for the CCL.

    El Salvador
    It's Aguila or Dragon. One match, tomorrow. Dragon last won the title in 1953, of course, never took part in CCL. Aguila played few years ago.
     
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  23. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Country:
    Croatia
    Suchitepéquez trashed Comunicaciones 3-0 and won their second title in Guatemala, first being won in 1982. They will make CCL debut along another Guatemala team, Antigua.

    2016-17 CCL Qualifiers


    1. Vancouver Whitecaps [CAN]
    2. Sporting Kansas City [USA]
    3. FC Dallas [USA]
    4. New York Red Bulls [USA]
    5. Árabe Unido [PAN]
    6. Pumas UNAM [MEX]
    7. Portland Timbers [USA]
    8. Tigres UANL [MEX]
    9. Honduras Progreso [HON] *
    10. Antigua GFC [GUA] *
    11. Alianza [SLV]
    12. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC]
    13. Police United [BLZ] *
    14. W Connection (TRI) [CFU]
    15. Central FC (TRI) [CFU]
    16. Don Bosco (HAI) [CFU] *
    17. Herediano [CRC]
    18. Real Estelí [NCA]
    19. CF Monterrey [MEX]
    20. Olimpia [HON]
    21. Plaza Amador [PAN] *
    22. CF Pachuca [MEX]
    23. CD Suchitepéquez [GUA] *
     
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  24. slaminsams

    slaminsams Member+

    Mar 22, 2010
    Dragon beat Aguila 1-0 and will also be making their ccl debut

    2016-17 CCL Qualifiers


    1. Vancouver Whitecaps [CAN]
    2. Sporting Kansas City [USA]
    3. FC Dallas [USA]
    4. New York Red Bulls [USA]
    5. Árabe Unido [PAN]
    6. Pumas UNAM [MEX]
    7. Portland Timbers [USA]
    8. Tigres UANL [MEX]
    9. Honduras Progreso [HON] *
    10. Antigua GFC [GUA] *
    11. Alianza [SLV]
    12. Deportivo Saprissa [CRC]
    13. Police United [BLZ] *
    14. W Connection (TRI) [CFU]
    15. Central FC (TRI) [CFU]
    16. Don Bosco (HAI) [CFU] *
    17. Herediano [CRC]
    18. Real Estelí [NCA]
    19. CF Monterrey [MEX]
    20. Olimpia [HON]
    21. Plaza Amador [PAN] *
    22. CF Pachuca [MEX]
    23. CD Suchitepéquez [GUA] *
    24. CD Dragon [SLV] *
     
  25. fridge46

    fridge46 Member

    Oct 23, 2011
    So there has been a minor change in the seeding pots for edition.

    CAN1 - Vancouver Whitecaps FC - have been moved to Pot 2, whilst PAN2 - CD Plaza Amador - has been demoted to Pot 3.

    Full seedings are in the article posted by @Paul Calixte in post #121 - relinked
     

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