2015 US Open Cup Round #5: Union v DC United, June 30, 2015 p/d/p (R)

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Union' started by aztec21bas, Jun 28, 2015.

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Predict The Outcome: Union v. DC United

Poll closed Jun 30, 2015.
  1. Win

    41.5%
  2. Loss

    58.5%
  1. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  2. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank god it didn't go to ET, as that would have had a weather delay too.

    Nights like this are why we still support this club. It's why we're fans, period. It's why we'll continue to support this club even through all the off-field drama, the antagonizing CEO, and all of the other Bullshit this club puts the fans through.

    The Union are interesting if nothing else. Also, USOC matches at PPL are the best matches to go to. Something always happens be it crazy weather, controversial officiating, late drama, etc.
     
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  3. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Completely missed this game because I found it a lot less interesting than the women's game last night, but glad they are through to the next round. This club, despite obvious deficiencies, does not fail lately at making things interesting in the USOC. It sure seems the only competition they find themselves still competing in this time of year.
     
  4. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can anyone explain what was with Ayuk's goal celebration? And then totally ignoring Williams who (much to my chagrin) played pretty well and put in a helluva cross to Eric.
     
  5. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    We're the Bradford City of American soccer.
     
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  6. LuckyStriker

    LuckyStriker Member+

    Favorite club? a German one..........
    Apr 14, 2010
    in exile-Statute of Limitations yet to expire
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Was it Yuk's cross that Candy whiffed on inside the 6? Honestly can't remember..........
     
  7. slitz

    slitz Member+

    Feb 19, 2005
    Red City, 140
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any word on why Catic wasnt in the 18? Was he cup tied to Carolina? Lack of international spot?
     
  8. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So here's the red card in slow motion.

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    Sapong lightly flails his arm upon the sternum of the DC United player.

    Laughable.

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  9. SOBtilIdie

    SOBtilIdie Member

    Feb 14, 2010
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #109 SOBtilIdie, Jul 1, 2015
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 2, 2015
    He led with his elbow and made contact with the DCU players neck. Its not laughable, harsh sure, but there is very much justification for the red card. What's laughable is the bias and inability to see why it got called that way.

    Please see the USSF directive about "above the shoulder contact" that was issued for referees in 2009.

    https://www.massref.net/ussfdirectives/Contact_Above_the_Shoulder.pdf
     
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  10. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #110 WVUPharm2007, Jul 1, 2015
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2015
    What are you talking about? You can see white jersey above Sapong's arm. The appendage clearly landed on the DCU player's chest. And it landed with very minimal force primarily from the forearm, not the elbow.

    The media certainly thought it was a terrible call. Kinkead published a Vine...just read the replies. Not a single person anywhere, other than you and Bazakos, thinks its a red, close to a red, or even a yellow. A foul, maybe, Sapong did jump into him, but even that is questionable.
     
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  11. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then why aren't they our meaningless friendly?
     
  12. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    They probably aren't aware of the LHUSOC's rich tradition and/or existence.
     
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  13. SOBtilIdie

    SOBtilIdie Member

    Feb 14, 2010
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is a reason that I don't post on here. I said it was harsh and I certainly don't think it deserved a red card, but I can see how the referee interpreted that action at full speed to be what he called. I guess they don't teach reading comprehension at WVU.
     
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  14. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #114 WVUPharm2007, Jul 2, 2015
    Last edited: Jul 2, 2015
    You didn't say any of that. You just said that he hit the man in the neck with his elbow. Which he didn't. I disagreed. You don't have to throw out an ad hominem about my college over it.

    If you think cause was there for the ref to hypothetically pull out the red card, great. I'll tell you that I think you are wrong, but I can agree to disagree. Whatever.
     
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  15. SOBtilIdie

    SOBtilIdie Member

    Feb 14, 2010
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm pretty sure I said that....I'm pretty sure we both agree that it was a harsh decision and wasn't a red card.
     
  16. billf

    billf Member+

    May 22, 2001
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In fairness to the referee, Sapong didn't need to hit the opponent in the neck. Going in like that elbow first can be enough, contact or not.
     
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  17. Zman Gunner

    Zman Gunner BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 7, 2003
    Middletown, DE
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He is cup-tied to Carolina like Sylvestre as they both played in the RailHawks loss to Charlotte. He is a dual citizen so the USOC international player limit does not apply to him.
     
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  18. ScottyMac26

    ScottyMac26 Member+

    Jan 13, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Kudos to WVU for teaching you Spanish like "ad hominem " though. Wish my schooling covered it.
     
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  19. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    That's like something they don't teach you unless you take Algebra, I think.
     
  20. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The funny thing is that I picked that term up from my junior high gym coach. Dude used to say it all the time...in a hilljack accent. It came out phonetically "Add humneem." He'd say it before insulting someone. "I ain't trying to ad hominem, but [insert insult]." Every kid in the school knew what "ad hominem" meant because we'd wonder WTF he was saying and look it up.

    WV public school system right there.
     
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  21. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Speaking of which, didn't you call another poster a "giant douchebag" recently?
     
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  22. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I wiki'd ad hominem and it really only applies when insulting someone as a means to win an argument. If you call someone a giant douchebag or an illiterate just because you feel like it, I don't think ad hominem applies.

    Now, if you tell me I'm wrong and it's because I'm an idiot, ad hominem may or may not apply depending on whether your own interpretation of ad hominem is correct or incorrect.
     
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  24. djramone

    djramone Member+

    Jan 14, 2006
    Pennsylvania
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We've reached ad nauseam.
     
  25. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This thread ...

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