2015 CONCACAF U-20 Championship

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  1. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
    Currently 2-2 between Honduras and El Salvador with all the diving, hand bags and time wasting you'd expect from Central American teams.
     
  2. slaminsams

    slaminsams Member+

    Mar 22, 2010
    When you don't have the talent you to try to make up for it in other ways. Canada does it by bunkering and then huffing the ball forward through route 1. Different countries approach the game differently. Canadians just need to get used to the fact already.
     
  3. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
    We'll see this tournament. I'd still rather not play pretty than straight up cheat all the time, but I'm sure "I just don't get it".
     
  4. slaminsams

    slaminsams Member+

    Mar 22, 2010
    I'm not saying I like their tactics but there's nothing I can do about players diving. Unfortunately it happens even at the highest levels of the game. However this whole superiority complex some Canadian fans regurgitate on this site is something I can address directly

    Funny thing is Canadian players also dive I remembered a game the US was playing against Canada where a Canadian fan was adamantly saying Canadians don't dive just as one took a dive
     
  5. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Day 3
    Trinidad and Tobago trashed Aruba 5-1 while USA lose out to Panama 0-1. :eek:
     
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  6. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Not shocked at all; I expected Panama to win. USA played poorly during their previous match against Guatemala, plus Panama was the strongest team in the UNCAF qualifiers last July.
     
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  7. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Don't really know where to put this, but @La Trucha, the El Salvadorian-yanks were two of the players that have done the best so far for the USA, although thats not saying much. Flores was really good before he went off injured and Moreno is the one US player who's a lot better than I had initially thought. He's so much more dynamic than I had remembered, although I think I had only seen him play once before his sub appearance today. Your boys are two of the lone bright spots so far for the USA.
     
  8. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Thanks. I watched both US games, Flores did his job as a number 10 but unfortunately the US team just weren't able to deliver for you guys during these 2 games. Shame he got injured, though it'll be interesting to see how USA does without him.

    PS. It's called 'Salvadoran' :)
     
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  9. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    What an brilliant game between El Salvador and Canada!! El Salvador won 3-2; both teams were very competitive and played beautiful football, my heart nearly exploded when ES scored at the very last minute!! :eek:

    What baffles me is how El Salvador played so poorly in their prior matches against Honduras and Haiti. The draw to Haiti should have never happened, plus ES was extremely lucky to score the equalizer against Honduras.

    If ES plays like they did against Canada or better, then they actually stand a chance against Mexico.
     
  10. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    I am not sure I like this playoff format. We could have an issue where #4 eeks out a PK "victory" against #1 and #1 still ends the qualify tournament with a better record. It would be even worse if the two team came from the same group, with #1 having a better record against identical opponents, even including the 1 game playoff and does not advance, and perhaps having a record of 1 win and 1 tie against #4 in direct play.
     
  11. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seems like that you don't like the playoff format, rather than the tournament format. You wanted the top 2 in each group to directly qualify, with no playoff? This format keeps a lot more teams in the hunt through the last matchday.
     
  12. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Panama 1:0 Trinidad and Tobago (Final)
    Guatemala 2:0 Aruba (Final)
    Jamaica 0:1 USA (Halftime)

    USA will be eliminated with a loss to Trinidad and Tobago on Wednesday or with a loss tonight combined with Jamaica beating Aruba on Wednesday.
     
  13. JohnnyFutbol

    JohnnyFutbol Member+

    Nov 5, 2009
    Haddonfield
    Club:
    Club Tigres de la UANL
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    For a team with so much hype and supposed to be so superior to these other CONCACAF teams, its bad either way.

    They should have easily be at the top of their table, not begging for the srcraps.

    Somone should inform these kids from over seas to understand that dealing in the CONCACAF region its going to always be hell.
     
  14. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Wait, if T&T defeats USA then won't USA still progress thanks to goal difference?
     
  15. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Head to head.
     
  16. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Honduras defeated Haiti 3-2. Haiti and Canada are both now officially eliminated, while Mexico and Honduras are through to the next round. Mexico has qualified to the WC.

    With that being said, ES needs at least a draw to remain in 3rd place. If ES wins and Canada defeats Honduras, then they finish in 2nd place.

    As for Group A, Panama and Guatemala are through to the next round while Jamaica and Aruba are eliminated. The winner out of T&T and USA will progress to the next round, while Panama and Guatemala will battle for 1st place and WC qualification.
     
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  17. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Panama will finish first or second, but Guatemala could fall to third. If USA wins and Guatemala loses, the teams would be tied with 10 points and they played a draw head-to-head. Then USA would get second on goal differential. USA could finish with the second best goal differential of the 12 teams and fail to qualify.
     
  18. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Well the US went through as second place. All in all we deserved that position. We are dominating the action but we aren't scoring. Unlike Mexico who have been scoring boatloads.

    Strange fact of this tourney. 6 different teams have an American citizen as a starting goalkeeper. :eek:
    US (of course), Mexico, El Salvador, T&T, Guatemala, Jamaica.

    Never seen anything like that before.
     
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  19. DaniChandler

    DaniChandler Member

    Jun 9, 2013
    Panama Canal
    Club:
    Cruzeiro Belo Horizonte
    Nat'l Team:
    Panama
    Panama will play against Mexico at 8 p.m. EST on Saturday. This kids played in 2013 for the first place too at U-17 CONCACAF Qualifiers and Mexico did a comeback and won 2 x 1.

     
  20. B2TO

    B2TO Member

    Aug 6, 2009
    Dallas / Monterrey
    Club:
    Club Tigres de la UANL
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Nice!
    It will be an interesting match, a rematch per say.
    I'm glad to see Panama futbol culture growing as it is, good for los Canaleros!
     
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  21. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    So what. If a team wants to avoid the playoff, then win the group. It's that simple. Failure to win the group puts them at the possibility of losing to a team with less points. That possibility always existed in the previous format, and there was no way to escape it even if you won your group.
     
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  22. Giulio D'Alessandro

    Jan 24, 2015
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Today USA-El Salvador... It's incredible how Tab Ramos team didnt win the group. With top quality players like Hyndman, Arriola, Thompson, Canouse and good quality players like Miazga, Gall, J. Flores, Carter-V.
    I think Tab Ramos did very bad in the first 2 games, against Guatemala (1-1) and Panama (0-1).
    In the first game he played with a 4-4-2 in the first half, a 4-2-3-1 and a 4-3-3 in the second. He show an high level of confusion concerning the tactics. He put in the centre of the midfield Acosta-Arriola, the first is a right back and the second is a side/central striker. In the second game he corrected this aspect, putting in the midfield Emerson Hyndman with Acosta again. I dont know if Canouse was injured, but if he was not it's incredible how he missed the first 2 games. From the game against Aruba we saw the best midfield possible for USA. With Russel Canouse (Hoffenheim) and Emerson Hyndman (Fulham). I think this is one of the best U20 midfield for USA since the times of Bradley-Szetela.
    As we saw during the last games the choosen tactic for Coach Ramos is 4-4-2.
    This is the players he used more, and the players i think will face today El Salvador.
    -----------------------------------Steffen-----------------------------
    Moore---------Carter-Vickers--------Miazga----------Requejo

    Thompson---------Hyndman--------Canouse----------Gall

    ----------------------Jameison---------Spencer------------------

    I hope Ramos understand that Spencer is not as good to play as starter and maybe will change him With Arriola or Flores. I dont like Jameison too, but surely he has more good qualities than Spencer.

    This is the team that i think is the best for USA with the players selected. I dont know how Joel Sonora was not selected by the coach, maybe he has an Injury i dont know, but he is the real Nr. 10 of this team and one of the best players of his age in the United States.

    __________________Steffen________________
    Turner_____Carter-Vickers___Miazga______Requejo
    _________________Canouse_________________
    __________Acosta________Hyndman__________
    Thompson_____________________________Gall
    ________________Arriola___________________

    I really hope that Ramos guys will get the win today, this is one of the best U20 team i've seen, they have only to be more organized tactically that during this qualification competition. I think they will do great in the World Cup!
    (El Salvador was the team that cut USA chance to partecipate to 2013 Olympics Games)
     
  23. Gerardo Silva

    Gerardo Silva Member+

    Jan 23, 2013
    Club:
    Pumas UNAM
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  24. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    You can post in the Youth National Team forums. That forum is dedicated to US Youth Teams.

    Anyway, Sonora is injured. I like what Canouse brings, but he's a limited player. He wasn't starting prior to the Acosta injury because there were better players to start.
     
  25. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guatemala 1:2 Honduras
    USA 2:0 El Salvador

    Honduras and USA qualified.
     

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