2015-2016 Offseason for the SAS (NASL)

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  1. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    #26 brentgoulet, Nov 5, 2015
  2. FootySkeptic

    FootySkeptic Member

    Sep 24, 2015
    Club:
    Cardiff City FC
    #27 FootySkeptic, Nov 5, 2015
    I was wondering that too... Is it some kind of move to sell him?
     
  3. mng146

    mng146 Member

    Jul 19, 2011
    Rochester, NY
    #28 mng146, Nov 5, 2015
    Then there's this excerpt from the article I linked to earlier:

    "Without a coach, Howard Cornfield stated in the press release that they would not be advancing on signing players without a new coach in place."

    Sooo...he's a bit fat liar. I would also have to assume they're going to sell him (or try to at least).
     
  4. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #29 HailtotheKing, Nov 6, 2015
  5. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #30 HailtotheKing, Nov 6, 2015
    Um what?

    We formed almost two years BEFORE we had a club ... the Scorpions evolving, devolving, or whatever happens isn't going to remove us from the landscape. If anything, it'll strengthen us as we've proved that this city is a place where professional soccer should and needs to be.
     
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  6. greenroom

    greenroom BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 16, 2012
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #31 greenroom, Nov 6, 2015
    Yes, but is there a team?

    Unless Gordon Hartman just woke up on Wednesday morning and said lets to the deal (seeing how pissed off the fans and media coverage), it does not make any sense. Even in his release yesterday, they say they cannot talk about anything. If there is still the Scorpions around, you would think that there would be some general acknowledgement.
     
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  7. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #32 HailtotheKing, Nov 6, 2015
    ... pretty sure Forbes knows who he signed with (or who it would be) for 2016. Just saying. Of course, the Scorpions could just be taken over and moved to USL as the Scorpions or new team (although the stadium is kind of branded and that'd be a good chunk of change that SS&E would have to fork over quickly to modify for next season ... don't see that happening).
     
  8. greenroom

    greenroom BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 16, 2012
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #33 greenroom, Nov 6, 2015
    Interesting view of the soccer "war" in San Antonio.

    but this caught my attention.

    "The fate of the Scorpions organization is uncertain. It was business as usual for the staff Thursday, with an eye toward whatever next year might hold. There are still plans to hire a coach and sign players."

    having said that, I know the staff has been cut down a few people, and really who would want to coach a team, that at this time is on life support? or would players really want to sign with the Scorpions for 1 year? And I have no doubt that the attendance is going to drop, if the Spurs are running a USL team as well. I know for me, I have no clue on who I would get season tickets with, the past or the future?

    http://www.expressnews.com/sports/c...ticle/It-turned-into-Soccer-V-Day-6613641.php
     
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  9. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #34 HailtotheKing, Nov 6, 2015
  10. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    #35 brentgoulet, Nov 6, 2015
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  11. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #36 SoccerPrime, Nov 9, 2015
    Relevant to San Antonio Scorp fans:


     
  12. MLSinSTL

    MLSinSTL Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 20, 2009
    Ohio - near a city
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #37 MLSinSTL, Nov 9, 2015
    In general, I root for soccer teams to succeed in the US. I enjoy watching the sport grow which is why I am not too thrilled about the developments in SA with the Scorpions. It has been funny looking at the posts in the USL thread about San Antonio from 2011 & 2012 about the Soccer for a Cause business model. I remember being skeptical that the plan would work long term and even short term. Then the Scorpions did about everything right in year 1 & year 2 and I some how forgot about my skepticism. Now, several years later, it seems those concerns about the business model for the club are finally coming true as Hartman sells the stadium and sells, or folds the team. It's a shame to see the team go from the NASL.
     
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  13. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
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    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #38 SoccerPrime, Nov 9, 2015
    I understand hesitation about going from NASL to USL (which seems realistic now) but with the overall plan to move to MLS that seems like a positive for SA fans. I think a lot will be determined how Spurs run their pro team next year. It seems it can't be worse than it was this year in the NASL. However if they get Cornfield, step one is boot him out into the street. In public.
     
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  14. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #39 HailtotheKing, Nov 9, 2015
    I prefer the Salem approach ...
    [​IMG]
     
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  15. ChinaBlue

    ChinaBlue Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    #40 ChinaBlue, Nov 10, 2015
    Looks like the Scorpions(the NASL franchise and the brand) will be dead within days. What do we do with this forum? Just rename and move it to the USL forum?
     
  16. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
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    United States
    #41 SoccerPrime, Nov 10, 2015
    If it all happens this week we will move it.
     
  17. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

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    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    #42 brentgoulet, Nov 11, 2015
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  18. MUTINYFAN

    MUTINYFAN Member

    Apr 18, 1999
    Orlando
    #43 MUTINYFAN, Nov 11, 2015
    Is there any chance that the Spurs organization would buy the Scorpions franchise and move it to USL. Is Hartman prohibited from selling the Scorpions to a non-NASL owner? It just does not make sense why it was not sold as part of the stadium deal unless their is a right of first refusal for NASL for the franchise I am just scared they will call the USL team San Antonio FC, San Antonio United or San Antonio City.
     
  19. FootySkeptic

    FootySkeptic Member

    Sep 24, 2015
    Club:
    Cardiff City FC
    #44 FootySkeptic, Nov 11, 2015
    I think the worst would be SA Spurs FC
     
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  20. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #45 HailtotheKing, Nov 12, 2015
    Not sure how NASL has any say considering that the franchise license was only through this year. As has been stated, the likely scenario was SS&E making sure that the sale/lease of the stadium was passed (still had to pass the votes and be made official) before moving on anything else.

    Hartman owned BOTH the Scorpions AND the stadium ... they are two separate entities in terms of assets.
     
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  21. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
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    #46 msilverstein47, Nov 12, 2015
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  22. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    #47 brentgoulet, Nov 17, 2015
    No news out of san antonio ?
     
  23. greenroom

    greenroom BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 16, 2012
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #48 greenroom, Nov 17, 2015
    Nope.. not from SSE or Harman/Scorpions.
     
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  24. greenroom

    greenroom BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 16, 2012
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #49 greenroom, Nov 20, 2015
    Wonder what the delay is. I am hoping the delay is that behind the scenes that Mr. Hartman and SSE are working together to keep the name and in NASL. Its just been very quite with no news from either side. Or one can hope..
     
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  25. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
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    Real Salt Lake
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    #50 SoccerPrime, Nov 20, 2015
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