2011-2012 CONCACAF Champions League [R]

Discussion in 'Mexico: Club Cups and Competitions' started by sidspaceman, May 18, 2011.

  1. It's called FOOTBALL

    It's called FOOTBALL BigSoccer Yellow Card

    May 4, 2009
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaPuCgKocw0"]Todos los detalles previos a la final de la Concachampions - YouTube[/ame]
     
  2. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
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    Oct 5, 2007
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    1-0 monterrey so far.
     
  3. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
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    Oct 5, 2007
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    golazo de suazo 2-0
     
  4. Hdez.Marcos

    Hdez.Marcos Member+

    Apr 7, 2010
    Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Country:
    Mexico
    I like how he always shows up against Oswaldo.
     
  5. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    But (if I heard Pablo Ramirez correctly...and if he actually knew what he was talking about this time), Suazo will have to sit out the second leg due to yellow-card accumulation. If Monterrey score next week, then things get really interesting, but I don't think a 2-0 home victory (enough to send the Final into overtime) is beyond Santos.
     
  6. elvasco

    elvasco 100% Americanista

    Sep 10, 2006
    Not quite a done deal yet but it will be once De Nigris scores in torreon next week.
     
  7. El Pipiripau

    El Pipiripau Member+

    Jul 10, 2006
    Escondido!!!
    Club:
    Club Santos Laguna
    Country:
    Mexico
    It's over...

    Surprised no one mentioned Suazos foul on oswaldo.
     
  8. It's called FOOTBALL

    It's called FOOTBALL BigSoccer Yellow Card

    May 4, 2009
    Subtos Laguna?
     
  9. John Jagou

    John Jagou BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 8, 2006
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Pumas UNAM
    I saw it as a spirit of the law, letter of the law play. The letter of the law says foul, and yellow card (as do all the talking heads on FP).

    The spirit of the law takes the whole play, location, and everything else in context. Perhaps the ref saw it as two players going for the ball in front of the goal mouth. There was going to be contact, period, so unless there was extra contact, then maybe a card. Besides, Suazo never had the intention of fouling Oswaldo, and Oswaldo even jumped up and went after the loose ball after the contact.

    I thought it was a good no-call on the yellow, but I am not a Santos fan.
     
  10. El Pipiripau

    El Pipiripau Member+

    Jul 10, 2006
    Escondido!!!
    Club:
    Club Santos Laguna
    Country:
    Mexico
    I don't think intent matters, a foul is a foul IMO. It's obvious the ref didn't want to give him his second yellow. I believe there was a foul called, and it should've been a yellow.

    Shit happens though...
     
  11. John Jagou

    John Jagou BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 8, 2006
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Pumas UNAM
    So you are a letter of the law man. That's cool. I am sure that if it was Pikolin II that took tacos to the thigh, I would feel exactly the same.

    Perhaps Oswaldo should have flailed on the ground instead of leaping into action. He didn't sell it.
     
  12. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
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    Oct 5, 2007
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    This final is far from over, torreon will come out firing on al cylinders at home
     
  13. JohnnyFutbol

    JohnnyFutbol Member+

    Nov 5, 2009
    Haddonfield
    Club:
    Club Tigres de la UANL
    Country:
    Mexico
    Im pretty neutral in this final, although i think this Monterrey team could represent this region better than Santos.

    Good game last night.
     
  14. El Pipiripau

    El Pipiripau Member+

    Jul 10, 2006
    Escondido!!!
    Club:
    Club Santos Laguna
    Country:
    Mexico
    I think it was blown call, but I think Monterrey were the better team and deserved to win. If it was anyone else, I'd like our chances of coming back.

    I think both teams can rep well at cwc but our teams always manage to stink it up. Hopefully this year will be different.
     
  15. It's called FOOTBALL

    It's called FOOTBALL BigSoccer Yellow Card

    May 4, 2009
    He did know what he was talking about this time. Cards don't get erased before the Final. Like last year, when Beckerman had to sit out leg 2 of the Final because of yellows he picked up in Saprissa and Mexico.
     
  16. #1Keeper

    #1Keeper Member

    Feb 7, 2004
    Monterrey should feel very comfortable with this partial result. Up 2-0 in aggregate is very good for Monterrey and I hate to be a pessimist but I don't see Santos overcoming that deficit even at home. We can talk about controversy all we want with Suazo not supposed to be on the field minutes before he scored his first goal but what affect Santos more was Gomez not scoring off that header at the edge of the 6-yard box a minute before the goal.

    I think not getting an away goal is what affected Santos more than Suazo not being sent off. Santos had two or three solid scoring opportunities in the game but wasted all of them. a 2-1 goal would have been more manageable for Santos to work with in the return leg. They might be able to score a few goals at home, but I just don't see them holding Monterrey to 0 goals. Alas, we shall see what happens in the return leg as no visiting team had ever won a championship in Torreon.

    Overall, I do think that Monterrey has a more solid team. In the attack, both teams are pretty even. However, defensively, Monterrey is more organized tactically and more disciplined. This is Santos biggest weakness- defense. They don't know how to defend and have never been a defensive team. I thought it was rather strange for Galindo to be so conservative knowing this fact. He might have been better off committing more of his players forward to try and get at least one away goal knowing that they can't keep a clean sheet.
     
  17. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    Anyone else think Darwin should have just taken the shot himself in the first half?
     
  18. Esposende

    Esposende Member

    Aug 27, 2011
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    gooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllllll

    Santos

    Half time

    1-0
     
  19. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    THIS is a Champions League Final. Great game so far...
     
  20. DGreat

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    Oct 5, 2007
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    Jul 15, 2007
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    Country:
    Mexico
  22. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
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    Oct 5, 2007
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    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
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    tied up, shit just got real.
     
  23. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
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    its seems like santos is now just giving the ball away booting up for a counter. Monterrey is really hurting with out chupete.
     
  24. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    Congrats to Monterrey, and here's hoping they learn from last year and show up for next CWC.
     
  25. bajacalifas

    bajacalifas Member+

    Oct 17, 2011
    Tecate
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    Mexico
    gratz to rayados well deserved, santos also gave a good game
     

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