2010 Revolution Roster Thread

Where are the goals going to come from? Do you honestly expect Twellman to come back and contribute? You predicted in the offseason that he'd be healthy for the season opener, when are you going to open your eyes and realize that these things just aren't going to happen? This team doesn't have a goal scorer or enough offensive firepower to win a playoff series, even with Joseph back.

 

I guess we'll just have to see how things play out and whose more correct.

 

Just to stick my hand into the fire,,,,I saw an article about NZ's world cup squad and it said Simon Elliot is unattached and out of contract. I know we're all about the "young kids" and "speed game" but I can't help thinking his experience and linking ability through the midfield might be the yin to SJ's yang.

 

I never liked him very much.

And, we don't have SJ's yang anyway right now (if we did, I think Phelan's ying would be just fine!).

 

I think you need to recognize this isn't future tense anymore. Sure, there's plenty of season left to play, but things are playing out right now. I'm getting the distinct impression that you're suspending judgment in order to avoid admitting to some uncomfortable truths.

 

I come from an outcome oriented world where retrospective analysis of what worked and what didn't work is a critical aspect of improving outcomes. Making hypothetical statements about what WILL happen or asking questions that can only have hypothetical answers may be fun as part of a discussion but they are NOT REALITY and will only become meaningful after the data is in.

 

Sure, retrospective analysis is always important. The Revs really should have done some after 2009. Retrospective analysis needs to turn into foresight at some point, otherwise it's just meaningless navel gazing. That's particularly true in a business where you have a designated window to fortify yourself in order to compete next year. In the sports world, waiting until after the fact is an abdication of responsibility.

More to the point, do you wait for a corpse before you diagnose an illness?

 

fyp

 

Agreed, I don't remember anyone, except maybe Doc, saying you (Monty) were wrong about that.

I have railed against anyone screaming "dump Twellman!", but I also said (last winter and I stand by it now) just what you said above: plan to be without Twellman, and if he comes back it's a bonus.

Unfortunately, their plan was A) re-sign EJ and hope he can stay healthy (epic fail) and B) draft Schilawski (good, but no Twellman). Twellman is out of contract at the end of the year so, healthy or not, there is a good chance he won't be back for 2011. If they have any allocations left, they have a chance to audition his replacement in the summer transfer window. If the post-World Cup influx of talent doesn't include the Revs, I will be extremely disappointed.

 

but not surprised

 

Initially, I was going to agree with you. But looking back, they have added players during the summer window for at least four years in a row:

2009 - Jankauskas
2008 - Badilla
2007 - Nyassi, Mansally
2006 - Abundis, Oka

So, if they don't sign anyone, I will be surprised. The question is will they sign someone good enough to make a difference?

 

When are we going to get an announcement on Castro? I don't see him on the injury list and he apparently isn't in NY, so is he totally out of the Revs' plans? If so, is he going to be cut so one of the in-school draftees can audition for a spot? They should be graduating this month, and I remember at least one was a defender, which is where we are shortest on bodies right now.

 

This is a fairly big deal. If he didn't play last night, I can't imagine when he is going to get on the field.

 

I was sort of refering to the the so called "big names" that Garber mentioned a few months ago.

 

A defender and a defensive Mid. Be nice if either one could help out at this point but they might be looking at this team and thinking "do I really want to go to that team?"

 

Yeah but on the flip side of that, they could be thinking "easy job to win, might as well give it a shot" given they'd probably get into the starting lineup relatively easily, especially the d-mid (Phelan? c'mon) compared to most professional teams.

 

The Joker in the deck right now is Castro. When a players isn't listed as injured and he can't make the bench that says to me he's tagged to be cut and the only reason he's still with the team is his replacement isn't available yet. The real question is who that player might be? A rookie looking to make the team or someone who needs to wait for the transfer window?

 

could be that they just wanted to sit him out one more game until this weekend. I don't buy that the Revs have a player in waiting, just not the Revs. I do however hope you are correct and they are going hand him his walking papers or in his case limping papers

 

You're kidding, right? Almost any college player -- especially one who weren't among the top dozen or so draftees --- is going to be thrilled to have a chance to try out for an MLS team.

I'll bet Nicol and the Revs have a pretty good reputation with kids coming out of college. Over the years it has been a good team and it has certainly been a good spot for draftees. It is frustrating to be a Revs fan right now, but I'll be draftees feel differently than fans about the organization. Besides, like RevsLiverpool points out, the current problems probably look like opportunity to trialists.

 

Remember, we have two draft picks that are graduating very soon. Perhaps Castro is keeping a spot warm until/if one of them impresses.

 

This post makes my head hurt.

 

I suggest you take two Aspirin and call Monty in the morning.

 

If we had another signing in the wings, wouldn't we just cut him? I seem remember back in 2007 (when the revs were really good) that they cut Daniel Hernandez in May or something even though they didn't have anyone lined up to come in. Then we sat with empty roster slots for what felt like an eternity while Gary Flood sabotaged our challenge for the Shield.