Does anyone have any information on this, particularly which Americans are participating? I can find nothing on the USSF or CONCACAF websites. It seems like appointments to this tournament would say a lot about which referees are going to be in the mix for WCQ10, which, in turn, says a lot about which referees might be in contention for WC10 itself. In particular, is Stott going, has he given way to Vaughn, or are both going? Of course, since the US typically does well in the tournament and advances into the latter rounds, we can't tell too much from the actual assignments themselves.
from usa: vaughn strickland gansner marrufo (reserve) others of note: archundia arredondo rodriguez camargo navarro fearn
So three Mexican CRs and only one American (as Marrufo is there as a 4th)? Does this signal Stott's done in CONCACAF or is it just something he can't or doesn't need to attend right now? Also appears that, unless this is just a random selection, Marrufo has instantly jumped Salazar at the international level (Prus was too old and was never going to be developed for FIFA tournaments, but Salazar is still rather young).
I think you could argue that Marrufo hasn't really "instantly" jumped Salazar. He's improved a TON over the past few years. This is, of course, his first year with a FIFA badge, though, so I think the rationale is that Vaughn is a better choice than Salazar (probably true, but I've never been a fan of Vaughn or Salazar so I'll just say that without qualifying it) and that Marrufo is a high prospect and thus gets the developmental time.
After watching only one game for Vaughn, Salazar, and Maruffo, I like Vaughn and Maruffo the most. Vaughn has excellent player management. All of them do but Vaughn surpasses the other two. I'm not sure why I liked Maruffo's style more than Salazar, but they all of course are great referees.
Yeah, I just meant "instantly" insofar as the political international pecking order, since Salazar had his badge before Marrufo. I wasn't speaking to their abilities.
Toledo heading to Copa America. http://copaamericavenezuela2007.terra.com.br/default.asp?pag=noticias&id=330
Toledo, huh? Also, here's the full Gold Cup list: http://www.concacaf.com/view_article.asp?id=3806 I'm shocked--shocked, I tell you--that there are two T&T referees going. At least Batres is back. I've known for a few years now, but I'm still surprised he's age eligible for 2010. That's a good thing. So is Archundia. Things look really good at the absolute top of CONCACAF. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like USSF officials are going to play a big role in the next few years.
Anyone know where you can find box scores for these matches that include the referees? I have looked around a bit and can't find them.
I think you'll eventually see referee names here: http://www.concacaf.com/competitions/goldcup/index.asp Not as well as UEFA or FIFA do it, but CONCACAF always seems to list the referee in their recap/news article on a particular match. Examples: 23.05.2007: Port-au-Prince, HAITI; Stade Sylvio Cator (A: 12000) HAITI – CHILE 0:0 HAI: Gabart Fénélon – Stephane Guillaume, Pierre-Richard Bruny, Jean Sony Alcenat (46: Pierre Roland Saint Jean), J. Michel Alexandre Boucicaut (56: Turlien Romulus), Eliphene Cadet (56: Ricardo Pierre-Luis), Brunel Fucien, Jamil Jean Jacques, Josue Mayard, Franz Gilles, Windsor Noncent. TD: Luis Armelio GARCIA CHI: Nicolás Peric – Boris Rieloff (25: Boris González), Sebastián Roco, Mauricio Zenteno, Roberto Cereceda, Fernando Manríquez, José Luis Cabion, Daniel González (82: Cristián Martínez), Carlos Villanueva (46: José Contreras), Roberto Gutiérrez (46: Juan Gonzalo Lorca), Rodolfo Moya (17: Mathías Vidangossi). TD: Nelson ACOSTA R: Guidner EDOUARD (HAI) 25.05.2007: Mérida, VENEZUELA; Estadio Metropolitano (A: 42000) VENEZUELA – HONDURAS 2:1 (2:1) Leonel VIELMA 18’; Daniel ARISMENDI 38’ – Carlos PAVÓN 44’ VEN: Javier Toyo (46: Rafael Dudamel) – Luis Vallenilla (46: Héctor González), Leonel Vielma (53: José Manuel Rey), Oswaldo Vizcarrondo, Andrés Rouga (46: Jorge Rojas), Miguel Mea Vitali (46: Javier Villafraz), Edder Pérez (20: Jesús Meza), Jesús Gómez, César González (46: Alejandro Guerra), Daniel Arismendi, Nicolás Fedor. Booked: Meza 50’, Vizcarrondo 61’, Dudamel 82’, Rojas 90’+ TD: Richard PÁEZ HON: Orlin Vallecillo – Oscar García, Maynor Figueroa, Eric Vallecillo, Sergio Mendoza, Carlos Oliva (42: Emil Martínez), Amado Guevara (61: Emilio Izaguirre), Wilson Palacios, Jorge Claros, Carlos Pavón (68: Luis Santamaría), Jairo Martínez. Booked: Mendoza 20’, Oliva 26’, Figueroa 36’ TD: Reinaldo RUEDA R: Mayker GOMEZ (VEN)
concacaf.com has up the Canada-Costa Rica Summary and officials: R: Enrico Wingaarde (SUR) A1: Anthony Garwood (JAM) A2: Ricardo Morgan (JAM) FO: Courtney Campbell (JAM)
Terry Vaughn had a difficult first half in the Haiti vs. Guadelope match. There were several difficult calls and some very hard challenges. Thankfully the second half was much easier. I was afraid the first half was going to get out of control with escalating cynical challenges or even a fight. Terrible conditions in Miami. It must have been in the 80's with 100 percent humidity and intermitent showers. Also, I must say what a relevation Guadelope is in the quality of their play.
Figured this is a good place to summarize assignments for the first round: Costa Rica:Canada - WIJNGAARDE (SUR) Guadeloupe:Haiti - VAUGHN (USA) Canada:Guadeloupe - BRIZAN (TTO) Haiti:Costa Rica - CAMPBELL (JAM) Costa Rica:Guadeloupe - WIJNGAARDE (SUR) Haiti:Canada - RODRIGUEZ (MEX) United States:Guatemala - PINEDA (HON) El Salvador:Trinidad & Tobago - ARREDONDO (MEX) Guatemala:El Salvador - JAUREQUI (NED) Trinidad & Tobago:United States - MORENO (PAN) United States:El Salvador - ARCHUNDIA (MEX) Trinidad & Tobago:Guatemala - PINEDA (HON) Panama:Honduras - NAVARRO (CAN) Mexico:Cuba - AGUILAR (SLV) Honduras:Mexico - QUESADA (CRC) Panama:Cuba - DAVIS (TTO) Cuba:Honduras - Mexicoanama - So far, everyone but Batres has been used, so I kind of expect to see him on the Mexico match. I imagine the other game will be someone from the first matchdays who is eligible (Navarro or Aguilar, I think... because the USA could play the 3rd place Group C team now and this match has direct bearing, Vaughn might be ruled out). Going into the second round, though, it's hard to predict too much else.
And Aguilar did the other match. So that means Aguilar, Pineda and Wijngaarde had 2 matches already and either will probably be rested for the second round, or are done. I imagine the only other "rules" are that referees won't work on the side of the bracket where there team is and the other referees from the last matchday might be rested. My best (and complete) guess for Round 2: Canada:Guatemala - QUESADA (CRC) USA:Honduras - RODRIGUEZ (MEX) Mexico:Costa Rica - VAUGHN (USA) Honduras:Guadeloupe - MORENO (PAN) And I see Archundia, Pineda, Brizan and Navarro as the four main options for the last three games, depending on progression.
To late to edit, but an obvious mistake on my part. Batres will get a semi. Either the Mexico one or, if Guatemala is eliminated, the US one. Archundia is a tough call, because it would make sense to save him for the final, but if Mexico progresses, he's done. So you might see Archundia on the US semi, Batres on the Mexico semi (assuming both teams progress) and then a lottery among Navarro, Pineda and Brizan for the final.
Ick. I don't care for those choices for the final, personally. I'd rather see someone chosen from Batres, Moreno, and Archundia.
A) I'm just guessing. B) Batres has already had a Gold Cup Final, so I think that eliminates him (it does in all other major int'l competitions) C) Archundia is certainly in the mix if Mexico gets eliminated this round; but if not, he'll almost certainly be used in a semifinal so as not to have him sit out the knockout round in case Mexico makes the final. D) I didn't get to see Moreno and don't know a lot about him. My guess is just based on experience. If he was as good as people say/think, maybe he'll be in the running, too. But I kind of doubt it.
Oh, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Moreno doesn't have the experience, I just really liked the way he handled the U.S.-T&T game. (Er, I assume he was the one on the U.S.-T&T game.)
Thus far... Canada:Guatemala - CAMPBELL (JAM) USA:Honduras - BRIZAN (TTO) So I've been totally wrong. I was just guessing on the CAN:GUA game and I should have known better (not having one Caribbean ref in the mix). But this assignment for Brizan kind of surprises me; it seems to indicate that either Rodriguez or Archundia are done after only working one match--and they are both WC referees.
You are probably right, the missed hand ball in the first half is hard to explain. Not pulling a card of either color on the PK is also questionable. Overall I think he didn't do a good job. Then again, maybe I missed something.