2007 CCC Final: Chivas vs. Pachuca CF [R]

I think Pachuca will win. Chivas has not started off well in either aggregate (lost to W Connection, tied DC United), but they were helped out by having the 2nd leg at home. This time, the second leg is on the road, so if they start bad like they have been, it's all over.

 

Is that what the red star represent in Chivas Crest and the gold star on Pachuca's crest? I don't think they do, specially for Pachuca, that's probably for La Sudamericana... but I thought I would ask anyway.

 

Not sure what Pachuca's gold star represents, but Chivas' red star is for their recent Mexican championship. I think they made the 11th star stand out because Chivas are now the Mexican club with the most Mexican league titles.

 

That star is definitely for the Sudamericana...

I hope Pachuca takes this, I believe they would be a better representation in the Club World Cup.

 

Thanks to both.

 

Pachuca is my fav

 

i think chivas might get rid of some of their good players(europe) so it be best for pachuca to win it but im pretty sure we could take this seasons championship

 

Do you guys think either team has a chance to break the 3rd place ceiling that Concacaf teams keep getting in the CWC?
I think Pachuca could do it. Don't know about Chivas.

 

i think both Chivas Red star and Pachuca's gold star represent the same thing.
They are both the last years champs (one clausura and one apertura).

 

they should only play one game in Azteca and thats it, who ever wins goes to japan

 

This tourney is getting boring now. mexican teams always dominate.

 

I think concacaf should choose a venue to host the final and only play one game just like they do in the NFL. It would make it more interesting.BUt then again if you got unpopular teams playing I don't think it will work.

 

interesting note. if Pachuca win this will be Chaco Gimenez's second straight CCC title because he won it last year with America. and it will be his 3rd international title in 1 year when you include Sudamericana

 

I am so jealous of Pachuca's and Guadalajara's recent rise to success. Even though Cruz Azul has been on top of standing more often than not, there is no silverware to show! But i will always root for the team with CRUZ AZUl written on its chest! (in this case it means Pachuca, haha)

 

2 of the last 3 winners have been Costa Rican teams... (well, 2 out of 4 now since Costa Rica can't win this year either).

 

You can say that as easily as I can say that a Mexican team has won in 6 of the last 10 editions, or 7 out of 11 (if you count this year in which a Mexican side is going to win).

Actually in those 11 years only in two editions a Mexican team has failed to reach the final, those where the editions of 2000 and 2004.

There isn't much of a case to say that Mexican teams don't dominate this thing, maybe they don't win it every time, but they win it far more often than anyone else, just look at the first post of this thread.

 

How's that a new thing though? Mexican teams used to dominate far more than they have lately. Quit acting like them doing well in confederation competitions is some new thing. The MFL is the best league in Concacaf and in the past they've dominated, but the trajectory is in the direction of parity not domination.

 

Maybe is not new for you, but it might be for the person that pointed out that this is only the 2nd Mexican championship in 4 years in response to someone that pointed out that this thing was getting boring with the Mexican teams always dominating. To me is pretty clear that Mexican teams have dominated this thing in the past and they still do.

I personally don't see the trajectory towards parity that you mention, who knows, maybe I'll see it next year, but with an all Mexican final for the second year in a row, well, to me is not really the greatest indicator of parity.

 

chivas.