The Trump Presidency VII :: Simpletons, Wankpuffins, Bawbags & Erstwhile Lawyers

LeBron got my respect after he tore apart my Pistons* in 2007. With a very mediocre side. Jordan had Pippen and Jackson backing him up. LeBron's coaches have been Mike Brown (Who looks like he's lost), Erik Spoelstra (He's not bad), David Blatt, and Ty Lue. Although Jordan's Bulls teams before Pippen weren't that great either.

LeBron with a team of good to great players with a coach like Phil would be insane.

 

You mean MJ & Kobe/Shaq's assistant? Yeah, he was awesome.

 

Even if his job with the Lakers was somewhat easier, he still made things work between two guys who need a lot of touches.

In Chicago Jackson took a hapless side and made them into a formidable force, designing an offense around MJ, polishing his post-up skills, developed Grant and Pippen into great players and plugged the right role players around the trio. For the second three-peat, he kept egos in check, didn’t let Rodman get out of hand and achieved the most wins in a regular season. Not a bad guy to have as a coach.

 

I remember it well...



Tore Andre Flo was playing for the mighty CFC as well as Norway at the time.

 

Somewhat easier? He had 2 of the best players in the league!

Don't mind me. I'm still bitter about the money he stole from the Knicks.

 

Keeping egos in check and finding the right complementary players are still difficult tasks. As for his stint in NY, I think most coaches (at least in soccer and basketball) can find their goldilocks zone for a decade or so, winning, keeping players happy and finding enough tactical diversity to still confuse opponents; after that, they just live of their reputation and command yuuuge loads of money to basically suck. See Mou, Wegner, and yes, Phil Jackson.

 

No, please stop. That name is taken.

 

Don't be Fucking ignorant and lazy.
Take it here. People here give a shit

https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/2017-2018-nba-season-thread.2076849/

 

Lakers had Kobe and Shaq before Jackson, Del Harris wasn't getting anything out of them.

 

I don't slum around in those lesser threads

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/27/us/texas-border-patrol-shooting-victim/index.html

Now we shoot Asylum seekers in the head. Welcome to America.

 

Racism unleashed

 

LeBron is a solid number 2 ever player, but the Eastern Conference has been absolutely awful for about a decade now. James hasn't had to deal with much in terms of challenges from his conference for a long time. Jordan's run through the Eastern Conference was much more challenging and he also won all his finals series (Plus, that first three-peat team Jordan had with the Bulls wasn't any better than James' three championship teams.).

I like James, especially his political stances, but he's not better than Jordan in my book.

 

I thought FIFA prohibited team names from making "political" statements?

 

This story lended itself to quickly pointing out the false statement by Trump as clear evidence was there for all to see. But, did Trump lie or was he just plain ignorant of things going on in his administration? Both are bad but ignorance isn't necessarily lying. We don't call flat earthers liars even though they espouse nonsense.

 

I love Kareem but I would put him No 3 behind those 2.

 

The league compared to other eras is awful

 

Uh...he supposedly is where the buck stops. Him being ignorant of what is going on is an "anathema". That means no good!

 

Kareem was the greatest player in the 70s but he was also a disappointment overall. People will remember the bald google wearing old guy in the 80s, but 70s Kareem was lacking. And it hurts his standing. Still a top ten great but not top three. That scene from Airplane! about him not trying also has a kernel of truth to it.

 

He had that in Chicago with MJ and Pippen.

 

That man's dead. Been dead 45 years. He has no use for it anymore.

 

Bush II is really overrated. The accompanying article notes he has gone up 5 spots since the last time they did the ranking. I don't see how, since his legacy has gotten worse, not better.

Reagan is an interesting case. If we are to judge him by his ability to accomplish his goals and affect the trajectory of history, it's about right...but then what the hell is Eisenhower doing 2 places higher. Further, wasn't Buchanan sympathetic to slaveowners? He's always ranked so low because his actions helped the South better prepare for the Civil War.

Either historians think Reagan's accomplishments of blowing up the deficit, yet still presiding over average per capita GDP growth and overseeing the beginning of the era of increasing inequality is a good thing, or he's way overrated, or a bunch of other people are way underrated.

Hell, if it's about accomplishing your agenda, read my lips, Bush I is massively overrated.

Personally, I think what happens is that many of the historians polled just separate the value of what Reagan accomplished from his ability to get his agenda passed and significantly change the arc of history. Most presidents get judged by the value of what they do.

But then, explain Jackson.