Yunus Musah at Valencia CF

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  1. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He’s too young to be appreciated. He needs to develop a lot more and then we can appreciate him (at whatever ceiling he has) as he refines.
     
  2. Ray Shoesmith

    Ray Shoesmith Member+

    Valencia
    United States
    Nov 14, 2021
    He is in Spain. Not in England This is common there. If he wants to succeed in the middle of the park his touch has to get tighter, he has to make better decisions there. He would do better in England now, he could be much better in a year or so. Just the way it is. The Spanish really do teach, and expect their young players in a different way. I know we don’t appreciate:p that in the US.
    We just want them to become those players without the work, and complain when our players can’t play like that,
     
  3. eliwood

    eliwood Member+

    Jul 25, 2016
    On the bench for league play
     
  4. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  5. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York


    No start for Musah in the YA match of the day, but he's one of the most prominent players on an abnormally thin bench, so decent chance for minutes.
     
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  6. WheezingUSASupport

    Dortmund
    United States
    Aug 28, 2017
    Where are you seeing there’s a thin bench? I’m counting 12 players on their bench today.
     
  7. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    I'm talking about the people on it. I think I've never seen 5-6 of them play, and I watch Valencia when Musah plays.
     
  8. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like Musah is not going to play in this debacle.
    Valencia ahead 1-0
    At around minute 85, Valencia's LB gets cramps and needs to be subbed.
    An 18-year-old LB is called to come in.
    Within a minute he picks up a yellow during a scuffle.
    two minutes later the same 18-year-old is called for a foul inside his box, getting a red card and a penalty.
    Espanol score and is now 1-1
    At minute 90 they score again 2-1 espanol

    I would hate to be this kid in the locker room.
     
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  9. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Impact sub!
     
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  10. m vann

    m vann Moderator
    Staff Member

    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I had some money on the game so I was super happy Espanyol had a big comeback. For 80 minutes it looked like Valencia had this in the bag. First road win of the season for Espanyol. My account thanks you! :D

    I really thought this match screamed for Musah especially after the equalizer. They needed a little of stability on the ball but I guess the manager thought otherwise.
     
  11. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For the life of me it's hard to square his performances with the USMNT with his lack of playing time with, and poor performance of, Valencia. If they have 6 guys ahead of him, so be it, but it seems unlikely.
     
  12. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with you. In the US set up he looks like one of the best midfielders we’ve seen in a long time. I truly can’t fathom how there are that many people ahead of him there. Does he speak Spanish well? Does he fit into the culture of the team? That may be more an issue for him than his talent?
     
  13. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    on media calls with U.S Soccer, he takes and answers questions in Spanish comfortably
     
  14. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Consider his teammates .Consider his opposition.
    Of course he looks commanding in CONCACAF.
     
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  15. WheezingUSASupport

    Dortmund
    United States
    Aug 28, 2017
    He might be one of those types that plays the same whether it’s against easy vs. difficult competition. Opposite of players who play down if their competition is down. Or he really enjoys playing for the US.
     
  16. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks. Brian do you get a sense of why he’s pretty much a non factor for Valencia other than the odd late sub and cup ties?
     
  17. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    la liga is really good...the quality of play is so high. easy to underestimate how good it is.

    technically and atheltically musah is very good but hes so young...even though he does well for usmnt with the tactics, i think he has a lot of room to grow tactically. (i think the usmnt tactics are pretty pedestrian)

    i think it is his age and he will eventually be at a top champions league type team as he matures.


    hes still only 19

    for perspective take a look at this article
    https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...0-of-the-best-young-talents-in-world-football

    60 of the top u20 players in th world published a few months ago.

    Malick Sanogo and Evan rotundo make the list...us eleigble players...but no musah lol....sanogo and rotundo are nowhere near making the full usmnt fwiw.
     
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  18. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Strong on the ball, strong on the dribble, needs work with his passing, imo.
     
  19. Shaster

    Shaster Member+

    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    Musah was on 2019 list with Reyna, Busio and Tillman.
     
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  20. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    This isn’t true. Iranzo, the 18 year-old, did come in and get a quick yellow, but the penalty and second yellow were on Hugo Duro, not Iranzo.

    Doesn’t change the fact that circumstances led to a change of plans from subbing on Musah, and doesn’t change that it was a crappy day for Valencia overall.
     
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  21. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like Musah is getting start today in Copa del Rey against FC Cartagena (Segunda).
     
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  22. derek750

    derek750 Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Musah played the first half in midfield instead of on the right wing but he's pushed forward more often in the second half (seems to be playing as one of two strikers at times but the formation is shifting).

    FC Cartagena are a mid-table Segunda side who've looked up for the fight. Musah has been quite influential, drawing fouls/cards and creating danger off the dribble and through his passing. At times he could be a bit more precise but he has so much potential and is fun to watch.
     
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  23. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He’s down now receiving treatment. Looks like he got stomped on his foot.
     
  24. el floppo

    el floppo Member

    NY RB
    United States
    Dec 7, 2021
    NYC LES Evil
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    wrote this elsewhere... and I think you're right, he did seem pushed higher in the 2nd half, more than as a traditional CMF

     
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  25. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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