Youth Yanks Abroad and Keeping Track of them

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by ATLGunner, Jan 29, 2008.

  1. ATLGunner

    ATLGunner Member

    May 8, 2005
    Atlanta
    It seems that there have been a bunch of youth signing up abroad over the past half year, and then we kind of forget about them because they are not playing with the first team. I thought we could have a thread that at least listed those on youth teams abroad, and a place to focus anything coming in about them. Here are the ones I remember off the top of my head;

    Jose Gomez, 1860 Munich?
    Phillip Spiekelberg?sp?, Atletico Madrid
    Bryan Arguez, Hertha Berlin
    Johann Smith, Bolton
    Sebastian Lletget, West Ham
    Kyle Davies, Southampton
    Andrew Galliambardo?sp?, Southampton
    Eric Lichaj, Aston Villa
    Preston Zimmerman, HSV
    Sal Zizzo, Hannover
    Jared Jeffrey, Club Brugge
    Vincenzo Bernardo, Napoli
    Gabe Ferrari, Sampdoria
    Will Packwood, Birmingham City
    Devann Yao, Lizorno?

    Guys currently trialing
    Chris Harris
    Keido Pour

    I know there are a lot more. Anybody else have a few?
     
  2. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Here is a sneak peek at the new YA list, coming in February. All the players I have confirmed locations for AND confirmed birth years 1985 or later. There are more where I have the location but not the year, and of course others (like Pour) where they don't have clubs yet.

    After the Olympic roster is picked this cuts back to, I believe, 1989 and younger.

    Dallman Matt 1985 SC Wiedenbrueck Germany
    Feilhaber Benny 1985 Derby County England
    Gkionis Nick 1985 MEAP Nisou Cyprus
    Guy Ryan 1985 St. Patrick's Athletic Ireland
    Hall Tally 1985 Esbjerg fB Denmark
    Hill Kamani 1985 Wolfsburg Germany
    Joergens Jared 1985 FC Germania Dattenfeld Germany
    Johnson Jemal 1985 MK Dons England
    Joyce Ian 1985 Watford FC England
    Maroni Matias Ivan 1985 Communicaciones Argentina
    Purdy Steve 1985 1860 Munich Germany
    Raus John 1985 LKS Lomza Poland
    Rodd Chris 1985 Bryne FK Norway
    Scott Gary 1985 1. FC Eschborn Germany
    Somma Davide 1985 Olbia Calcio Italy
    Topolski David 1985 Tur Turk Poland
    Botero Sebastian 1986 Atletico Huila Colombia
    Castillo Edgar Eduardo 1986 Santos Laguna Mexico
    Davies Charlie 1986 Hammarby Sweden
    Denny Jay 1986 Halesowen Town England
    Fearrington Jamil 1986 Sandnes Ulf Norway
    Hardy Aaron 1986 Huddersfield Town England
    Heider Marc 1986 Werder Bremen Germany
    Nguyen Lee 1986 PSV Eindhoven Holland
    Orozco Fiscal Michael 1986 San Luis Mexico
    Parratt Tom 1986 Hamilton Academical Scotland
    Pittman Jon-Paul 1986 Crawley Town England
    Rivera Samaniego Cesar 1986 Union de Curtidores Mexico
    Rogers Raphael 1986 TSV Forst Germany
    Salter Sean 1986 SG Fliessem Germany
    Spector Jonathan 1986 West Ham England
    Tabe Etchu 1986 Ljungskile SK Sweden
    Vidal Amaro Marco Antonio 1986 Indios Mexico
    Westberg Quentin 1986 EC Troyes France
    Basso Stephen 1987 SV Darmstadt 98 Germany
    Bradley Michael 1987 SC Heerenveen Holland
    Cue Steven 1987 Eintracht Frankfurt Germany
    Djite Bruce 1987 Adelaide United Australia
    Funicello Giuseppe 1987 Ashford Town (Middlesex) FC England
    Guadarrama Sonny 1987 Morelia Mexico
    Hill Keven 1987 SV Weil Germany
    Hummel Erik 1987 FK Austria Wien Austria
    Johnson Fabian 1987 TSV 1860 Munich Germany
    Konopelsky Andrew 1987 LKS Lodz Poland
    Liston-Clark Brian 1987 St. Ives Town England
    Martinez Camarillo Luis Carlos 1987 Teo S La Firma Mexico
    Padilla Cisneros Jesus Andres 1987 Chivas Guadalajara Mexico
    Quainoo Bernard 1987 HFC Haarlem Netherlands
    Randolph Darren 1987 Charlton Athletic England
    Rivera Pineda Uriel Crispin 1987 Santos Laguna Mexico
    Rossi Giuseppe 1987 Villarreal Spain
    Smith Johann 1987 Bolton Wanderers England
    Szetela Danny 1987 Racing Santander Spain
    Torres Mezzell Jose Francisco 1987 Pachuca Mexico
    van den Beld Mitchell 1987 FC Utrecht Holland
    Zizzo Sal 1987 Hannover 96 Germany
    Benn Adam 1988 Borussia Fulda Germany
    Borja Carlos 1988 Chivas San Rafael Mexico
    Castillo Noel 1988 Santos Laguna Mexico
    Crowther Reece 1988 Queen's Park Rangers England
    Ferrari Gabriel Enzo 1988 Sampdoria Italy
    Gordley Eli 1988 Royal Racing FC Montegnee Belgium
    Hemmer Stefan 1988 VfB St. Leon 1967 Germany
    Hines Sebastian 1988 Middlesbrough England
    Johnson Reda 1988 Amiens SCF France
    Lichaj Eric 1988 Aston Villa FC England
    Molina William 1988 Tigres UANL Mexico
    Murphy Nick 1988 VfL Osnabrück Germany
    Pritchett Damian 1988 VfR Mannheim Germany
    Skverer Nicholas 1988 NEC Nijmegen Holland
    Subotic Neven 1988 FSV Mainz Germany
    Westberg Sam 1988 FC Issy-les-Moulineaux France
    Wilson Adam 1988 Guiseley AFC England
    Zimmerman Preston 1988 Hamburger SV Germany
    Acuna Sanchez Isaac 1989 Club America Mexico
    Adu Freddy 1989 Benfica Portugal
    Arguez Bryan 1989 Hertha BSC Berlin Germany
    Corona Sanchez Ignacio 1989 Jaguares Mexico
    Davies Kyle 1989 Southhampton England
    Divsalar Bouche Christopher Fahriborz 1989 Atlas Mexico
    Fennell Dominique 1989 Stuttgarter Kickers Germany
    Giallombardo Andrew 1989 Southhampton England
    Ponce Miguel 1989 Chivas San Rafael Mexico
    Rodriquez Jimenez Daniel 1989 Durango Mexico
    Torres Castillo Hector 1989 Club Real Magari Mexico
    Williams Daniel 1989 SC Freiburg Germany
    Bernardo Vincenzo 1990 Napoli Italy
    Cannavina Walter 1990 Correcaminos Mexico
    Castro Serna Marco Antonio 1990 Santos Laguna Mexico
    Chandler Timothy 1990 Eintracht Frankfurt Germany
    Culton Chris 1990 DJK-FC Ziegelhausen Peterstal Germany
    Darsinos Alexander 1990 AEK Athens Greece
    Greenberg Michael 1990 Maccabi Petah Tikva Israel
    Jeffrey Jared 1990 Club Brugge Belgium
    Loman Mario Alejandro 1990 Indios Mexico
    Mendoza Covarriubas Luis Angel 1990 Santos Laguna Mexico
    Mora Hector Enrique 1990 Soles de Ciudad Juarez Mexico
    Morales Alfredo 1990 Hertha BSC Berlin Germany
    Ramsey Marcel 1990 Rot-Weiss Ahlen Germany
    Rogers Scott 1990 Stuttgarter Kickers Germany
    Yao Devann 1990 Pisa Calcio Italy
    Gomez Eliezar Isaac 1991 Soles de Ciudad Juarez Mexico
    Navarro Zermeno Daniel Alejandro 1991 Chivas Mexico
    Patrick Jordan 1991 Cambridge United England
    Ruelas Aguilar Gustavo Adrian 1991 Santos Laguna Mexico
    Zahavi Alexander 1991 Sporting Portugal
    Techler William 1992 SFC Stern 1800 Germany
    Leary Drake 1994 RSC Brainois Belgium
    Salas Victor Hugo 1994 Soles de Ciudad Juarez Mexico
     
  3. new_skin

    new_skin Member

    Aug 2, 2007
    Boston
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are Quentin Westberg and Sam Westberg related? Bit of an odd coincidence if we had two YA's named Westberg playing in France. That just may be the case though.
     
  4. ATLGunner

    ATLGunner Member

    May 8, 2005
    Atlanta
    Weren't there a couple of Californians who signed in Germany? Or was it just trials? I thought his name was Jose Gomez, not sure though.

    Also, whats the deal with Spiekelberg?, still waiting on a visa?
     
  5. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    I have about another 80 or so names that probably qualify as YYAs but they are at least one of unsigned, whereabouts unknown or birth year unknown.

    Some of those I'll be able to sort out by the summer, others not.

    Of the ones mentioned above, Gomez (Brugge) is apparently not a citizen, Oscar Arguero is with Cottbus but I don't know his YOB and Spiegelberg doesn't seem to in Spain at the moment.

    Sam is Quentin's little brother.
     
  6. ATLGunner

    ATLGunner Member

    May 8, 2005
    Atlanta
    I'd rep you but of course... must spread it around.
     
  7. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Love that list. These guys are the future (cue cheezy Witney Houston song).

    And I for one feel that more and more youth prospects are going to go this route (see Lletget, etc.) as opposed to the MLS route.

    I also notice a lot more kids in Mexico than in previous lists.

    Did we decide that this guy:

    Parratt Tom 1986 Hamilton Academical Scotland

    wasn't really a YA. Simply a kid who lived in the US for a while.
     
  8. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Thanks for the reminder about Parratt.

    Yes, there are loads more Mexico-based players. That's largely due to the help of beineke, who tirelessly searches the Mexican federation's web site for American-born players. I don't know how much of it reflects a change or, perhaps equally likely, illustrates how far below the radar these guys have flown historically.
     
  9. Kevin8833

    Kevin8833 Member

    Jun 18, 2007
    Estero, FL
    what about Brandon Manzenelli?
     
  10. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    Brandon Manzonelli was trialing in Belgium last I heard anything.
     
  11. Rainer24

    Rainer24 Member

    Jan 6, 2008
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who's the defender playing down in Mexico that we might be calling up for the U-23s?


    I love MLS and want it to continue to grow, but I also like seeing that we have that many getting paid to play all over the world. Good stuff.
     
  12. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    To be clear, a great many of those guys are not getting paid. Even players in, say, EPL academies basically get little more than a small stipend and their living arrangements taken care of. So, being at an overseas club doesn't mean much more -- technically -- than being with a youth club in the States until they offer you a job.
     
  13. Proud Mama

    Proud Mama New Member

    May 9, 2006
    OC
    Gomez is home now and I believe is playing at his local HS, and then will play for a CSL Club, Bayern BU19 team. I know Oscar was home for Christmas, but was just home for a visit. Another player to add to the list is Blake Robinson who just started training at Weder Bremen U17 Academy. I believe he is a 91.
     
  14. solid3

    solid3 New Member

    Jun 2, 2007
    How American is Zahavi? As far as I knew he was Portuguese/Israeli.
     
  15. Rainer24

    Rainer24 Member

    Jan 6, 2008
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Yeah, true. At least they are seen as prospects by someone.
     
  16. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wasnt Kamani Hill released from Wolfsburg????
     
  17. ATLGunner

    ATLGunner Member

    May 8, 2005
    Atlanta
    Born in the U.S. (LA). Played so far with Portugal, largely due to his well known evil agent uncle, who has had him switching around clubs and playing for portugal with money for himself his only worry.
     
  18. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    He's still listed on the team's roster page. If someone can confirm that he's 100% free, I will remove him.
     
  19. Hammerette 1

    Hammerette 1 Member

    May 24, 2007
    England
    Only a snippet but Lletget (or rather a 15 yo Californian who I assume is him) was referred to in the West Ham match programme yesterday by Tony Carr the academy director. He's recently been over to give a talk to the national soccer coaches convention in Baltimore. Anyway he says a 15 yo Californian who WH spotted through contacts out there (USA) has done very well and could be in line for a scholarship when 16, which is basically the first real steps to becoming a professional footballer, so fingers crossed that he continues to make the progress he has made to date.
     
  20. LoewenBoy

    LoewenBoy Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    Just out of curiosity, why would you list Fabian? While he does have an American father not sure he considers himself a "YA". He has played on the German youth national teams since he was 17 and is not likely to ever play for the US. Does that make him a YA? Just curious.:confused:
     
  21. goredbull

    goredbull New Member

    Dec 6, 2006
    If a kid plays on an EPL academy team (u18) and is receiving a weekly stipend and has living arrangements set up and paid for by the club, would he be considered ineligible to play in the NCAA?
     
  22. Zak1FCK

    Zak1FCK Member+

    Aug 23, 2005
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    FC Kaiserslautern
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is what is called the Rossi Rule.
     
  23. new_skin

    new_skin Member

    Aug 2, 2007
    Boston
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We consider anyone who is an American citizen to be a YA, regardless of national team preference. Examples of this are Rossi and Brede Hangeland.
     
  24. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    No.

    He is eligible.

    Brian Mascarenhas - example.
     
  25. LoewenBoy

    LoewenBoy Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    Ok...a bit odd since he does not hold a US Passport, is a "US Citizen" in theory only (by virtue of having an American father) and has no intention of playing for the US. I thought, I guess erroneously, that YA's aborad referred to guys who were actually American who played abroad, hence my confusion.

    If your criteria above is what is commonly considered a YA, your list should be MUCH, MUCH longer. There are players in Germany who have at least one American parent, who play in leagues all over Germany who would qualify under that interpretation. Just go to the regional leagues' websites and get a data dump of any kid with an American parent....you will find thousands who meet your criteria.
     

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