"You Worry Me"

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by dfb547490, Sep 9, 2002.

  1. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    A PILOT'S EDITORIAL-- "YOU WORRY ME."
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    I've been trying to say this since 9-11. I guess I will be labeled as a
    bigoted American, but so be it.
    By: American Airlines Pilot - Captain John Maniscalco
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    "You worry me. I wish you didn't. I wish when I walked down the streets
    of this country that I love, that your color and culture still blended
    with the beautiful human landscape we enjoy in this country. But you
    don't blend in anymore. I notice you, and it worries me. I notice you
    because I can't help it anymore. People from your homelands, professing
    to be Muslims, have been attacking and killing my fellow citizens and our
    friends for more than 20 years now. I don't fully understand their
    grievances and hate but I know that nothing can justify the inhumanity of
    their attacks.

    On September 11, nineteen ARAB-MUSLIMS hijacked four jetliners in my
    country. They cut the throats of women in front of children and brutally
    stabbed to death others. They took control of those planes and crashed
    them into buildings killing thousands of proud fathers, loving sons, wise
    grandparents, elegant daughters, best friends, favorite coaches, fearless
    public servants, and children's mothers.

    So I notice you now.I don't want to be worried. I don't want to be
    consumed by the same rage and hate and prejudice that has destroyed the
    soul of these terrorists. But I need your help. As a rational American,
    trying to protect my country and family in an irrational and unsafe
    world, I must know how to tell the difference between you, and the
    Arab/Muslim terrorist.

    How do I differentiate between the true Arab-Muslim-Americans and the
    Arab-Muslims in our communities who are attending our schools, enjoying
    our parks, and living in OUR communities under the protection of OUR
    constitution, while they plot the next attack that will slaughter those
    very same good neighbors and children? The events of September 11th
    changed the answer. It is not my responsibility to determine which of you
    embraces our great country, with ALL of it's religions, with ALL of it's
    different citizens, with all of it's faults. It is time for every
    Arab-Muslim inthis country to determine it for me.

    I want to know, I demand to know, and I have a right to know whether or
    not you love America. Do you pledge allegiance to it's flag? Do you
    proudly display in front of your house, or on your car? Do you pray in
    your many daily prayers that Allah will bless this nation, that He will
    protect and prosper it?

    Or do you pray that Allah with destroy it in one of your "Jihads"?Are
    you thankful for the freedom that only this nation affords?A freedom
    that was paid for by the blood of hundreds of thousands of patriots who
    gave their lives for this country? Are you willing to preserve this
    freedom by paying the ultimate sacrifice? Do you love America?If this
    is your commitment, then I need YOU to start letting ME know about it.

    Your Muslim leaders in this nation should be flooding the media at this
    time with hard facts on your faith, and what hard actions you are taking
    as a community and as a religion to protect the United States of America.
    Please, no more benign overtures of regret for the death of the innocent
    because I worry about who you regard as innocent. And no more benign
    overtures of condemnation for the unprovoked attacks because I worry
    about what is unprovoked to you. I am not interested in any more sympathy
    I am only interested in action. What will you do for America -- our
    great country -- at this time of crisis, at this time of war?

    I want to see Arab-Muslims waving the AMERICAN flag in the streets. I
    want to hear you chanting "Allah Bless America". I want to see young
    Arab-Muslim men enlisting in the military. I want to see a commitment of
    money, time, and emotion to the victims of this butchering and to this
    nation asa whole.

    The FBI has a list of over 400 people they want to talk to regarding the
    WTC attack. Many of these people live and socialize in Muslim
    communities. You know them. You know where they are. Hand them over to
    us, now!

    But I have seen little even approaching this sort of action. Instead I
    have seen an already closed and secretive community close even tighter.
    You have disappeared from the streets. You have posted armed security
    guards at your facilities. You have threatened lawsuits. You have
    screamed for protection from reprisals.

    The very few Arab-Muslim representatives that HAVE appeared in the media
    were defensive and equivocating. They seemed more concerned with making
    sure that the United States prove who was responsible before taking
    action. They seemed more concerned with protecting their fellow Muslims
    from violence directed towards them in the United States and abroad than
    they did with supporting our country and denouncing "leaders" like
    Khadafi, Hussein, Farrakhan, and Arafat. If the true teachings of Islam
    proclaim tolerance and peace and love for all people then I want chapter
    and verse from the Koran and statements from popular Muslim leaders to
    back it up.What good is it if the teachings in the Koran are good and
    pure and true when your "leaders" are teaching fanatical interpretations,
    terrorism, and intolerance.

    It matters little how good Islam SHOULD BE if large numbers of the
    world's Muslims interpret the teachings of Mohammed incorrectly and
    adhere to a degenerative form of the religion. A form that has been
    demonstrated to us over and over again. A form whose structure is built
    upon a foundation of violence, death, and suicide. A form whose members
    are recruited from the prisons around the world. A form whose members
    defended Johnny Cochran and O. J. Simpson after the latter butchered his
    wife and murdered an innocent friend. A form whose members (some as young
    a five years old) are seen day after day, week in and week out, year
    after year, marching in the streets around the world, burning effigies of
    our presidents, burning the American flag, shooting weapons into the air.
    A form whose members convert from a peaceful religion, only to take up
    arms against the great United States of America, the country of their
    birth. A form whose rules are so twisted, that their traveling members
    refuse to show their faces at airport security checkpoints, in the name
    of Islam.

    Do you and your fellow Muslims hate us because our women proudly show
    their faces in public rather than cover up like a shameful *****?

    Do you and your fellow Muslims hate us because we drink wine with dinner,
    or celebrate Christmas? Do you and you fellow Muslims hate us because we
    have befriended Israel, the ONLY civilized democratic nation in the
    entire middle-east?And if you and your fellow Muslims hate us, then why
    in the world are you even here?

    Are you here to take our money? Are you here to undermine our peace and
    stability?Are you here to destroy us? If so, I want you to leave. I
    want you to go back to your desert sandpit where women are treated like
    rats and dogs.I want you to take your religion, your friends, and your
    family back to your Islamic extremists, and STAY THERE!We will NEVER
    give in to your influence, your retarded mentality, your twisted,
    violent, intolerant religion. We will NEVER allow the attacks of
    September 11, or any others for that matter, to take away that which is
    so precious to us: Our rights under the greatest constitution in the
    world.

    I want to know where every Arab-Muslim in this country stands and I think
    it is my right and the right of every true citizen of this country to
    demand it. A right paid for by the blood of thousands of my brothers and
    sisters who died protecting the very constitution that is protecting you
    and your family. I am pleading with you to let me know. I want you here
    as my brother, my neighbor, my friend, as a fellow American. But there
    can be no gray areas or ambivalence regarding your allegiance and it is
    up to YOU, to show ME, where YOU stand."

    "Until then . you worry me."
     
  2. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    I wonder which fine newspaper this open letter was published in. Hmmm. I hope we didn't just cut and paste from an email a bored internet buddy sent us. :rolleyes:

    [edit]
    Here is the supposed original letter to the editor: http://www.gazette.net/200141/princegeorgescty/letters/75236-1.html

    Regardless of authorship, which remains in question, what a tool.
    [/edit]
     
  3. Ted Cikowski

    Ted Cikowski Red Card

    May 31, 2000
    I've said it before and I'll say it again....in Detroit, the Arab and muslim population have been the biggest American flag wavers around. Arab Americans, for the most part, were just as horrified and disgusted with the whole thing as any of us.

    Stupid letter. It's like saying white people need to prove they aren't terrorist because of what happened in Oklahoma.
     
  4. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    Exactly.

    Arab Americans in Queens apparently didn't get the memo telling them to "disappear from the streets". And how dare they speak out against anti-Muslim violence? The nerve!

    But of course, wave the flag a couple of times and mix in the Pledge of Allegiance in your prayer and you're free of suspicion. Riiiiight.
     
  5. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Um, I think you guys missed the point. The guy doesn't have a problem with Arabs and Muslims who prove themselves to be loyal to the US, it's the ones who passively sit on the sidelines that he has a problem with.


    Alex
     
  6. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    Um, no. I see the point very clearly.

    You might want to tell us why Arabs/Muslims have to prove their loyalty in the first place.
     
  7. Ted Cikowski

    Ted Cikowski Red Card

    May 31, 2000
    DFB, come on....a muslim and/or arab person doesn't have to prove anything. they shouldn't be assumed to be bad just because some people from another Country did some horrific stuff.


    And who does they have to prove thier patriotism to? Everyone they meets What if one day he forgets to wear his red-white-blue socks? Are you gonna assume they are a terrorist?
     
  8. TRC Real Sociedad

    TRC Real Sociedad New Member

    Mar 30, 2002
    Long Beach CA
    Quote

    "Yeah let's get them towel heads"

    Timothy McViegh.
     
  9. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    > The guy doesn't have a problem with Arabs and
    > Muslims who prove themselves to be loyal to the
    > US

    After them, who is going to have to prove their loyalty? Intellectuals? Liberals? I get the feeling that there is going to be some kind of national emergency that will allow Bush to remain president indefinitely. For the stability of America.
     
  10. Ted Cikowski

    Ted Cikowski Red Card

    May 31, 2000
    spejic, what does this have to do with Geroge Bush?

    It's just as bad as when the right wingers take shots at Bill Clinton in subjects unrelated to the Presidency.
     
  11. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    I have an idea.

    We should register all Arab-Americans under a program, let's call it "AmeriPoints". No, we'll make it voluntary - that way, we know if they don't sign up, they must be terrorists and want us dead.

    Under this system, Arab-Americans collect points for showing their alleigance to America. They would get 5 points for putting a flag sticker on their car, 10 points for wearing a Stars & Stripes sweater, 20 points for saying patriotic things like "God bless America" and "Let's turn the Middle East into one big parking lot", 100 points for ratting out a suspicious neighbor, 200 points for capturing Osama Bin Laden, 300 points for going to a strip club and so on.

    And at the end of the year, AmeriPoints members who accumulate enough points will get a "Not a Terrorist" certificate, plus bumper stickers, buttons and t-shirts.

    With AmeriPoints, everyone wins. Arab-Americans have a chance to prove their loyalty to their nation, show that they're not terrorists and experience slightly less bigotry.
    Non-terrorist-looking Americans can tell which cab drivers and gas station attendants are good Ay-rabs and which ones are out to kill us all.

    Condemning everyone with a diaper on their head just seems wrong and un-American. But with AmeriPoints, we can tell our children with a straight face,
    "See Johnny, that man isn't wearing any American flag or 'Not a Terrorist' clothing. It's okay to blame him for the events of 9/11 and look down on his culture."

    This idea is so crazy it might just work. Someone get the President on the phone.
     
  12. AminKor02

    AminKor02 New Member

    Jun 20, 2002
    Better yet, let's round them up and put them in concentration camps, even while some of them are fighting terrorism with the American military.

    Then, in 50 years or so when they sue the government, we can compensate them.

    This sound like a familiar scenario?
     
  13. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was a classic post skipshady.
     
  14. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Look here: https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12644

    It's Britain, not the US, but the point remains the same. Where are the moderate Muslims speaking out against this kind of thing?? Yeah, there's one or two here and there, but if there's a unified, moderate Muslim voice denouncing this I haven't seen it (and I really hope someone can post a link and prove me wrong).

    The fact remains that, with the exception of Oklahoma City, every single major act of terrorism against the US has been committed by Muslim radicals. The Beirut bombings, the Pan Am plane that got bombed over Scotland, the explosion in a disco in Berlin that killed American servicemen and innocent Germans and Turks, the first WTC bombing, the embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, the attack on the USS Cole, and, of course, September 11. Yet, despite all this, I've never heard a consensus of senior mullahs and imams denouncing this. Like I said, you get a few, but there's never a loud, near-unanimous denunciation (and again, I'd be very happy if someone could post a link to prove me wrong).


    Alex
     
  15. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    We didn't miss the point at all. This is a step away from McCarthyistic "prove to me that you're not a communist" b.s.

    It's like if you don't have a flag waving from your car, suddenly you're un-American. :rolleyes:
     
  16. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Agreed
     
  17. csc7

    csc7 New Member

    Jul 3, 2002
    DC
    First off, most of the events you described were carried out by one group. Along the same lines, I could say all Americans should have to speak out against church bombings because the KKK has blown them up. Or all Irish should have to speak out against terrorism because of the IRA. Do almost all people oppose these things, yes, but they don't seek out attention to clarify how much they hate them. Do you distrust white people because they haven't spoken out against these things, or do you think that the overwhelming majority are good people?

    The average Arab-American or Arab living in the US probably hasn't spoken out against these attacks because they are in NO WAY responsible for them. Why would it even dawn on them that they have to defend their race or patriotism? They didn't do anything. Should you have to defend your race because of slavery or OKC?

    In the case of immigrants, it should be enough that they chose to live in the US to show their belief in this country. In the case of Arab-Americans: I'm white and haven't flown a flag prior to or since 9/11 (nothing political, just not something I feel a desire to do), do you question my loyalty to the country? if not, why should Arab-Americans be held to a different standard?
     
  18. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Again, you're still blaming an entire population for the action of about 50 people.
     
  19. krolpolski

    krolpolski Member+

    That's not what some people are saying now.

    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/9/9/111622.shtml
     
  20. Raj

    Raj New Member

    Oct 3, 1999
    East Kilbride, Scotl

    There is a Muslim memorial service being held in London tomorrow to commemorate those who were killed.

    I saw this mentioned in a long column in the Sun which spent one sentence on this worthwhile event and the rest of the column (half a tabloid page) on the other offfensive event.


    When this kind of balance in reporting is being used it's not surprising that you think that there are no Muslims cindemning the events of September the 11th.

    I also agree with those who say that a Muslim shouldn't have to condemn these events in an outward manner. I would assume that everyone I meet is horrified by the events of 911 unless they state otherwise.
     
  21. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
  22. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    > spejic, what does this have to do with Geroge Bush?

    Any president will take whatever power is given him. A large number, if not the majority, is willing to give the current president dictatorial powers. He is going to take it.
     
  23. cosmosRIP

    cosmosRIP Member

    Jul 22, 2000
    Brooklyn NY
    Anyone willing to give GW dictatorial powers please raise your hand.
     
  24. LoveFifa

    LoveFifa New Member

    Apr 23, 2001
    Detroit, Michigan
    Concerning the original post-

    "I'm not saying he's right, but I can understand"-Chris Rock
     
  25. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Funny how none of that came up at the trial for McVeigh or Nichol, even when they postponed McVeigh's execution for a month.

    They've been trying for a year to connect Iraq to 9/11 and the best they've got is "Czech officials have insisted the meeting took place."
     

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