You too can run your own Afghan prison!

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Norsk Troll, Jul 9, 2004.

  1. Norsk Troll

    Norsk Troll Member+

    Sep 7, 2000
    Central NJ
    This one is really unbelievable:

    Three American citizens set up their own prison in Afghanistan, because they wanted "to take part in the war on terror." According to the article, they didn't "torture" their prisoners, but did administer "some beatings."

    Whom did they imprison? Apparently they were "detaining men with long beards on the outskirts of Kabul who they suspected -- based on their appearance -- to be members of al Qaeda."

    What brilliance - they can pick out al Qaeda members in the middle of Afghanistan solely by appearance! Why aren't these guys walking the streets of Pakistan looking to pick bin Laden out of the crowd?

    An Afghan official said this will "definitely have a negative impact on the image of Americans" among Afghans. Ya think?!?
     
  2. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    That's almost comical.
     
  3. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

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    I think it's safe to say you can replace the word "almost" by the word "friggin'"...
     
  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
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    The fact that you put the "almost" in there makes you a better person than me. I am ashamed to admit that the way Norsk puts it makes it damn funny.

    To me anyway.
     
  5. MP5A3

    MP5A3 New Member

    Jul 7, 2003
    Vanadiel
    I'd rather start my own Abu-Ghiraid, but, meh, to each his own. right?
     
  6. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    I was trying to be PC. I actually laughed my ass off, but didn't feel like getting in an argument with the idiots who usually show up for this kind of thing.
     
  7. bungadiri

    bungadiri Super Moderator
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    From the thread-starter:
    and from a previous report about something else having to do with Afghanistan

    http://www.upi.com/print.cfm?StoryID=04022002-082828-8434r
    Hm.
     
  8. Norsk Troll

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    Sep 7, 2000
    Central NJ
  9. Richie

    Richie Red Card

    May 6, 1999
    Brooklyn, NY, United

    Interesting why didn't they torture them? They must be weak willed. You can probably do that in iraq as well I would imagine.
     
  10. 352klr

    352klr Member+

    Jan 29, 2001
    The Burgh of Edin
    It's one and the same guy. He goes by Jack and/or Keith, short for Jonathan K. Idema. He is a nut-job. He went into Afghanistan trying to capture Bin Laden on his own. He even claimed he was close to catching him until a Predator drone scared bin Laden away. He's a glory hunter and a self-serving prick that no on in the SpecOps community respects. This guy is not on the government payroll. He's after the bin Laden reward and the name it'd make for him. Robin Moore, in his old age, is unfortunately completely duped by him and focuses a great deal of "The Hunt for bin Laden" on him.
    He's nothing more than a present day Bo Gritz.
     
  11. 352klr

    352klr Member+

    Jan 29, 2001
    The Burgh of Edin
    A few more things:
    Idema was a parachute rigger in the 11th SFG-A, a NG support unit that was disbanded in the mid-1990s. This hardly makes him the CT-expert he claims to be. He also claims to have been in El Salvador in the mid 1980s but only a small amount of people from 7thSFG-A where there. He also sued Dreamworks SKG for $150million because he claimed 'The Peacemaker' ripped off his life story. Predictably, he lost.

    Also interesting is that Ed Caraballo, one of the other Americans arrested, is a free-lance photojournalist/cameraman who has done the shooting on documentaries for National Geographic.
     
  12. Silvio Dante

    Silvio Dante Red Card

    May 22, 2004
    Dublin, Ireland

    Some Americans never cease to make me laugh...:D
     
  13. GoHawks4

    GoHawks4 Member

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    Trying to cut in on Jack Ryan's action?
     
  14. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
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    We call them 'comedians'.
     
  15. bungadiri

    bungadiri Super Moderator
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    Jan 25, 2002
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    Thanks for the information. Let's hope he's being re-acquainted with reality.
     
  16. 352klr

    352klr Member+

    Jan 29, 2001
    The Burgh of Edin
    No problem. I have no love for the current admin. but I'm making sure that people don't assume Idema is a hired thug, especially given the current ordeal with Abu Ghraib.

    As for the second person I mentioned, Caraballo the former National Geographic videographer, here's the latest on him:

    He has not signed the Privacy Act Waiver as Idema and Bennett, which states "''In accordance with the Privacy Act (PL 93-579) passed by Congress in 1974, U.S. Department of State personnel are not permitted to release any information not deemed to be in the public domain, regarding private individuals, without the express written consent of the concerned citizen(s).''

    http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_10-7-2004_pg4_8

    It gets more interesting every day.
     
  17. bungadiri

    bungadiri Super Moderator
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    Jan 25, 2002
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    From the NY Times:

    Portrait of a U.S. Vigilante in Afghanistan

     
  18. MP5A3

    MP5A3 New Member

    Jul 7, 2003
    Vanadiel
    Shhhh!
     

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