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Mbappe didn’t play well. Thankfully that 1 game yesterday doesn’t define his career.

If the option of spending $200 million on a player is between Mbappe or Neymar I’ll take Mbappe with zero hesitation. It’s not even a question...

 

I think Mbappe lacks motivation. he already "THIS PLAAYER". same team,same leaguue, same same things, same pressure and go on. Hope he will choose to have challenge in Madrid soon.

 

I mean if anyone lacks motivation in a CL final they don’t belong at the top level.

(To be clear I don’t think that was the cause of his performance yesterday)

 

Comparing any player to Ronaldo is unfair because they will always come up short in comparison.

 

yeah. i agree. But i mean in general. Maybe im wrong, but players who already stars at young age must change something on time.

 

The amount of excuses made for Mbappe here is comical, of course he shouldn’t be judged based off one game but those of us showing skepticism didn’t form our opinion yesterday.
Don’t get me wrong I would love to have him at Madrid but I’m not sure he’s worth what’s been asked and I certainly don’t think he is good enough for us to build an entire project around him.

For me Mbappe should be the Robin to someone’s Batman.

 

I don't think Mbappe is a locker room cancer like Neymar, but I think it's pretty clear the wages, environment of PSG and Neymar have affected his attitude.

Still a great player with the potential to be one of the best but what he really needed was one more year after his Monaco transfer and then move to a bigger league. As far as I'm concerned any scoring record him or Neymar have in Ligue 1 can be disregarded. At some point you lose your edge playing against the farmers.

 

I think we’re so eager to find the next CR or Messi that we sometimes lose perspective, obviously I’m guilty of this as well.
What we however need to realize is that players like that don’t come along often, Mbappe is still young so he might prove me wrong but I don’t see it.

 

I agree Mbappe still has a lot to prove. I do worry a bit about what will happen when his speed is gone. But he’s 21, we don’t need to worry about his speed being an issue for the next decade.

Mbappe is certainly good enough to build a project around though, no doubt about that imo.

 

I guess we’ll see in the next few years but as it stands I don’t see him as a player that will
be good enough for Real Madrid to build a team around but to be fair I don’t see any player on the market that’s currently at THAT level which is why I hope we adopt the Bayern model, in fact our current model is good as well except it might take longer to yield the results we want.

I’d much prefer investing in Vinnie and Rodrygo rather than spending 250 mil on Mbappe.

 

When the next best option is less than half his price and arguably just as good then its hard to justify spending over 200 mil for him.

 

As of their age 21 season in the champions league alone:

Cristiano Ronaldo (up to 05/06 season) - approx. 1300 minutes, 0 goals 2 assists
Lionel Messi (up to 07/08 season): approx. 1500 minutes, 8 goals 3 assists
Kylian Mbappe (up to now): approx. 2550 minutes, 19 goals 14 assists

And those guys were on stacked teams as well

 

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+1000

 

Neymar and Mbappe can score 50 goals in Ligue 1 and I'd still argue that it doesn't mean anything.

 

I gave you the total minutes each player played so what would be the point of looking up how many matches?

And how does one genuinely look at those stat line differences and think its all because of goal inflation? The two of them don't even combine for his numbers.

I'm not saying he's absolutely on a clear trajectory to surpass them, but you need to have these stats in front of you before labeling everything a failure through a narrative.

Why is why i only brought forth the champions league stats. Or is that a farmers cup too?

 

How many CL goals does Haaland have? Even our Rodrygo has more goals than CR at his age. That is not the point. None of those players are even remotely close to CR or Messi!!

 

19 goals 14 assists in the Champions League by age 21 is not a failure. Everyone wants to throw him under the bus like he's in his absolute prime and won't get another chance to win, but it is a demonstrable fact that he is putting up unprecedented stuff for his age. If that doesn’t fit in your narrative of the player, tough luck.

 

The numbers are great, but you can’t just look at them and throw EUR 200m on him.
He is simply not that good, IMO.