You 8-2 See One Team Score 9 Times- The Other Teams Thread

I'm not saying don't appreciate Hamilton or Lebron James' skills and accolades but they are clearly involved in some performative virtue signalling. It's not real. It's a performance. Hamilton with his climate change activism. It's laughable. Complete and utter narcissism. It's an act. Like most celebrities these days.

My point is these people are lauded in our culture right now but they are a sham. Meanwhile everyone talks about Maradona and Tyson as terribly flawed characters. It's true but we don't care. The people don't care. Look at the reaction to Maradona's death in Argentina and all around the world. We want the flaws. We don't want perfect people 'cause we know deep down inside it's not real.

A nice quote about Maradona I read summed it up for me "I don't care what you did with your life. I care what you did for ours".

I think greatness could be quantified in the impact they had on people's lives. Maradona is untouchable. We are talking about someone who gave meaning to people's lives who were at the bottom of the bottom.

Anyway I know it's all kind of twisted but I hope you get my point.

 

Absolute braindead post. Your hate for them obviously originates for change they seek which you resist. You also ironically point to impact on lives while forgetting the original two have impacted their generation not just with their play or "free and wild" lifestyle.

This has to be a sock; I felt I read this diatribe before just under a different name.

 

I think you are giving your opinion in absolutes. People loved Maradona and they love Tyson and they loved Michael Jackson because of what they did in their fields. The fact that they were flawed was not the reason people loved them. No one is gonna cry if Delonte West passes away and the dude has it pretty rough right now.

People also cried for Diana, people also cried for Kobe, people will cry if Lebron passes. They also had an impact in our lives despite not being controversial. Same for Tiger Woods, or Derek Jeter, or Tom Brady. Just because you don't like activism, doesn't mean other people will not mourn people who had a great impact in their lives

 

Maradona is the Goat because he played during the 80s when defensive football reigned supreme. Just look at the tackles that he suffered. Nowadays you can barely touch Messi or Cr7. Even haland is already breaking records. Defenders are crap nowadays.

 

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I always rooted for them when Maradona was playing. Now I root against them, but as soon as Messi retires I hope they win a couple of world cups in a row.

 

I just loved the Batistuta, Ortega, Zanetti, era. Even without Messi, this generation just seems boring and hard to root for

 

They are trying to improve their social standing. How do you do that? post a black square on instagram and wear BLM t shirts. It does nothing to solve racism. It's a performative gesture to improve one's social standing. They are narcissists.

Lewis Hamilton with his climate change activism? He has a private jet and is a Formula 1 driver. Cognitive dissonance much?

Meanwhile the under class in our society are starving and out of work. Why is climate change and anti-racism the chosen campaign for elite multi millionaire celebrities. Just think about it. It's easy. Compare that to what Marcus Rashford is doing. He actually managed to change government policy. No virtous grandstanding of morality.

Well done on this little performative gesture Everyone on the board knows how virtuous you are now. (you see how human nature works...)

This made me laugh. Lebron and Hamilton are rebels now? They are the establishment. They are part of the group-think of the elite. Literally multi millionaires. It's like Mcdonalds posting they are against Racism. Oh ok. Keep buying it keep following me. "Oh I see how this works"

 

I'm not saying Hamilton or Lebron are not good people but my point is that humans naturally gravitate to flawed characters because we are all flawed and we are deeply cynical of those who appear to be concerned with how they appear to others constantly in public and project perfection. If you read a lot of history about public figures you notice this.

Don't mean to cause a stir, just thought it was a good conversation topic

 

I like you undertow, but you won't be popular around here. It's a shame.

 

The guys is just having fun thinking out loud about a very irrelevant and unimportant topic. Good for you to take this extremely serious and making an essay on how wrong he is. As always, your mother must be proud.

 

Is it just me or is the most peculiar part of all is that we’re contrasting “social justice” and “performative” Lebron James with a man who tattooed his political idols on himself in Maradona?

 

Can we settle for "brilliant flawed people"?

I sense you are not a fan of Maradona which is ok but yes he was from the slums and football saved him and his family. Yes he probably would have been dead before 40 without football like many who grew up in those surroundings.

What are you implying?

haha c'mon man. You missed the boat. Next you will be telling me Lebron is the GOAT over Jordan

 

I understand. I never said Lebron hasn't done good. A lot of sportsmen with their millions ahve done good.

Shit even Pablo Escobar built schools and football pitches for the poor. Money is king.

Do you think a poor person in social housing gives a crap about climate change? It is the concern of the upper class elite. We are talking about hand to mouth existence. Read the room buddy. Tell a poor person they are not recycling well enough and see what reaction you get.

 

Yeah, right. Sweeping disagreements under the carpet of "uneducated, stupid or malicious" is a good conclusion. Doesn't mean it's a correct one, but it's a perfect way to tackle a cognitive dissonance problem in SJ community and simultaneously gain self-perceived moral and intellectual high ground.

 

Lol

Taking all the politics aside or whether you like activism or find them phony

The fact remains that no one is crying over Maradona because he was a drug addict. They loved what he did on the field.

And people love LeBron and Hamilton because of what they do on their sport regardless of their activism

The rest of their of this discussion is a political one.