YNT post-mortem: U.S. players born '93-'96

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Mar 30, 2016.

  1. Clint Eastwood

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  2. Dave Marino-Nachison

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  3. Kombucha

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    Foster Langsdorf a late 95 from Stanford who signed a HGP deal with Portland has 13 goals in 21 games from T2 and is the 2nd leading scorer in USL.
     
  4. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
  5. TarHeels17

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  7. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Yes. For some reason I had it in my head he was a '96.
     
  8. Balerion

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    Aug 5, 2006
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    The correct answer was "obviously I was referring to Tristan Blackmon"
     
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  9. Dave Marino-Nachison

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  10. Clint Eastwood

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    Dec 23, 2003
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    Jose Villarreal's contract wasn't extended by Orlando.
    End of the road for a once promising prospect?
    https://www.orlandocitysc.com/post/...ty-sc-announces-2018-end-season-roster-update

    Potentially also the end of the road for Jack McBean and Caleb Calvert. Contracts not extended by Colorado.


    By the way, another kid in this age group. Luis Gil, who was surprisingly at Houston (who knew?)……………..is technically going back to Queretaro. He's still been on loan.
    https://www.houstondynamo.com/post/2018/11/27/dynamo-announce-roster-moves-ahead-2019-season

    This '93 to '96 age group is just a skull crusher for those of us that thought there were going to be more USMNT-caliber players in there.
     
  11. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
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    I learned so much about talent identification from watching Gil's journey. At U12-13 he was identified as a highly probable future pro. In looking back I now realize that what caught everyone's eye was his quick acceleration. Some of that was simply due to his maturing early. His skillset was decent, but only by U.S. standards. And what's panned out was everyone else catching up to him athletically and his skillset being just ordinary.
     
  12. Pegasus

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    Apr 20, 1999
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    FC Dallas
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    Gil should have learned how to play Dmid like Daniel Hernandez. You can be a #10 until you play against pros but can extend your career if you learn to tackle and hustle.
     
  13. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    It's been very decent at GK and defense. Strikers and offensive mids seem to drop like flies.
     
  14. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
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    It's really '90 to '94. The 96s mostly sucked, but the 95 crop is solid enough.

    Allow me to present the 2007 U17 World Cup team:

    No. Pos. Player Date of birth (age) Caps Club
    1 GK Josh Lambo November 19, 1990 (aged 16) Chicago Magic
    2 DF Sheanon Williams March 17, 1990 (aged 17) FC Greater Boston
    3 DF Mykell Bates (c) April 15, 1990 (aged 17) River City Clash
    4 DF Tommy Meyer March 20, 1990 (aged 17) Scott Gallagher
    5 DF Chris Klute March 5, 1990 (aged 17) Dallas Texans
    6 MF Daniel Wenzel April 13, 1990 (aged 17) FC United
    7 DF Kofi Sarkodie March 22, 1991 (aged 16) Ohio FC Mutiny
    8 MF Jared Jeffrey June 14, 1990 (aged 17) Dallas Texans
    9 FW Ellis McLoughlin July 8, 1990 (aged 17) Crossfire Premier
    10 MF Bryan Dominguez March 7, 1991 (aged 16) Concorde Fire
    11 FW Fuad Ibrahim August 15, 1991 (aged 16) FC Dallas
    12 MF Kirk Urso March 6, 1990 (aged 17) Chicago Sockers
    13 FW Billy Schuler April 27, 1990 (aged 17) Matchfit Academy
    14 FW Danny Cruz January 3, 1990 (aged 17) Sereno Soccer Club
    15 MF Brek Shea February 28, 1990 (aged 17) Texans FC
    16 DF Brandon Zimmerman October 6, 1990 (aged 16) Crossfire Premier
    17 MF Greg Garza August 16, 1991 (aged 16) Dallas Texans
    18 GK Zac MacMath August 7, 1991 (aged 16) Clearwater Chargers
    19 FW Alex Nimo March 21, 1990 (aged 17) FC Portland
    20 GK Larry Jackson September 28, 1990 (aged 16) DeAnza Force
    21 MF Brendan King February 25, 1990 (aged 17) Chicago Magic
     
  15. Clint Eastwood

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  17. deejay

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    Feb 14, 2000
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  18. Clint Eastwood

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    Dec 23, 2003
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    Was really thinking that Gutman would be an ideal HG signing for the Fire.
     
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  19. Clint Eastwood

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  20. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
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    Another in this age group. Pffffffttt. Who's at the top of the MLS allocation ranking?
    [I don't think FCD "owns" his MLS homegrown rights Could be wrong about that.]
     
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  21. UnitedBorn

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    He isn’t on the allocation list, so they might just own his rights.

    Believe you only need to make a legit offer to maintain rights.
     
  22. Clint Eastwood

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    Who knows. I don't think FCD offered him a contract when he left for Fulham in 2011.

    What we do know is that Emerson and Rubin are part of what Klinsmann referred to as "the lost generation." And his fears about that 2016 U23 team have come to fruition. So many from that team haven't progressed for a myriad of reasons.
     
  23. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    No, they weren't. Neither of those guys fit what JK was talking about. Injuries have had an impact on both of their careers. It completely turned Rubin's and slowed Hyndman's. Time will tell with EH, but I wouldnt consider him in the same category as the guys JK was referring. 2020 would be a reasonable time to start judging his career.

    It is unclear why the loan wasn't extended. All parties were considering it less than a month ago. The most likely reason is that Bournemouth need him, at least for back up duty. It is also possible that Hibs could have changed their minds, as Lennon hasn't been happy with the side over last couple of weeks.

    https://www.orlandosentinel.com/spo...soccer-jjurgen-klinsmann-brek-shea-story.html

    "We hope that some would have done a lot better, we hope that some of the younger ones would have made stronger players in their club teams. ... A lot of our younger players struggle to understand that it takes a lot more work and determination and aggressiveness to really make it to become a consistent, driven professional.

    "Where is our next wave? Holy moly. We lost that generation that didn’t qualify for [the] London [Olympics.] What happened to the Bill Hamids, the Sean Johnsons, the [Brek] Sheas, the Mix Diskeruds? You go through and make your own judgment. You go through it and we get back to our old thing where we say, ‘Hey guys, talent is only half of it.’"
     
  24. Clint Eastwood

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  25. ChuckMe92

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