YNT-eligible MLS players: 2020 In-season thread

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Feb 29, 2020.

  1. WheezingUSASupport

    Dortmund
    United States
    Aug 28, 2017
    Keita starting, Berhalter and Morris on the bench.

    16yr old Fred Emmings on the bench as well. Don’t know anything about this guy.
     
  2. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    He's a Luxembourg youth international, but eligible for the USA. He's very big (6'4 or 6'5 already). I don't think he's the most talented. Looks like an early developer. He's quite clearly the worst of the three '04 keepers signed in MLS right now (Brady, Slonina, Emmings) IMO.
     
  3. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s the people who refuse to acknowledge that the MLS occasionally does something good. It’s also the people who refuse to believe that good players can actually be playing in MLS. I don’t think any of us prefer watching MLS to Europe (unless we’re paid to do so) but we at least know there is some quality in the league and it’s improving every year. It’s the guys who refuse to accept that a player like Aaron Long or Darlington Nagbe are good enough for the USMNT that we don’t like

    The pretentiousness of eurosnobs is why we don’t like them
     
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  4. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lotta weird goalpost moving here (not by you specifically, but by most people in this thread on your side of the fence). The argument isn't about locking foreigners out of MLS for the purpose of youth development; it's that it's very simple to have both great youth development and great foreign players, and that way too many teams have bad-to-mediocre foreign players that serve no purpose in gaining ratings except that the franchise can put no effort into a players development with the same product.

    Take your example. The Luka Doncic of MLS is someone like Diego Rossi, and he's great for the league according to anyone, including our side. Instead, it's whether a team like Portland only has 8 Americans and puts no effort into developing it's academy when a team like Seattle is pouring time and money into it with more successful on field results at their first team level. You don't think Portland could've found more Americans to replace one of their 20 foreigners?

    And last, your example is apples to oranges. NBA fans don't care because Doncic and Porzingis are fun. The correct equivalent is whether NBA fans care that Furkan Korkmaz gets minutes rather than an American. They don't because A) international basketball is irrelevant, B) the US dominates basketball, and C) if a US prospect is good enough to play fo the national team they're going to be too good to bench as a rookie. None of that is the same as in MLS.

    You can still have all your great MLS players, and even the TAM level ones. But for gods sake, it's not that hard to backload your roster with young Americans like Philly and Dallas. If they can figure it out, so can a lot of other teams.
     
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  5. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    The player development process is nowhere near as easy as some make it out to be. We are talking about an 8-12 year process that a player goes through. That process can only truly begin after infrastructure is in place.

    The returns have been pretty good, I would say, considering that just a handful of clubs have even endeavored in this area for anything like 8-12 years. Keep in mind that the end of this timeline is when a player will be STARTING his career.
     
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  6. Chicago1948

    Chicago1948 New Member

    None
    United States
    Aug 25, 2019
     
  7. Chicago1948

    Chicago1948 New Member

    None
    United States
    Aug 25, 2019
    Hey boss. I think your strategy is sound. If you will just give me 8-12 years to implement it we should be good. Tell me how that goes in your next review. You honestly think it takes 8 years to change. Please start scouting the 7Y0 programs for us so we have a chance.
     
  8. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    The key is not to start scouting 7 year olds. The key is to create a culture for 7 year olds to be a part of that will help them reach a top level.
     
  9. Chicago1948

    Chicago1948 New Member

    None
    United States
    Aug 25, 2019
    No. We should not care about scouting 7YO players. We should be teaching 7YO players soccer skills. You want to improve you player pool you teach them them the game not select talented kids who still shit their pants.
     
  10. Well, in whatever circumstances that never makes friends.
     
  11. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    Did you read what I wrote?

    I said that scouting at 7 years old is not necessary. What is necessary is to create a culture where 7 years olds can learn the game and thrive in an environment that surrounds them with good coaching, motivated peers, and an atmosphere that promotes a passion for the game.
     
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  12. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    https://sbisoccer.com/2020/07/curtin-confirms-european-rumors-for-mckenzie-aaronson
     
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  13. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    My guess is that you don't work in education? It's not a matter of changing one or two things and seeing immediate returns. it's not just the development system, it is also the raw material.
     
  14. Development means getting the quality inside out, not putting quality in. Otherwise you wouldnot need scouting.
     
  15. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    A bit of fluff but good to see the Republic are working with the other Sacramento area clubs. I can see them making a hard push for kids throughout the Central Valley.

     
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  16. wingman2468

    wingman2468 Member

    Austin FC
    United States
    May 25, 2018
    To be fair, the area they are building in Austin has the same density and traffic as some other cities CBD (Central Business Districts). It wasn't so much changing the requirements, but recognizing that Austin has another thriving part of the city.

    I agree with this whole heartedly. Doesnt hurt though that there are other programs with blueprints that have made them successful, you don't have to copy that, but you can take pieces of their programs that you think make them successful.
     
  17. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
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  18. WheezingUSASupport

    Dortmund
    United States
    Aug 28, 2017
    Would definitely prefer Anderchelt over Celtic. Belgian League isn’t ideal, but it’s better than the SPL.

    Aaronson versus Busio today. Hopefully one of them shows well.
     
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  19. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unreal assist by Aaronson. Scouts would immediately stop watching because they've seen enough after that one.
     
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  20. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also, Busio is trash. I'm done wasting time waiting for him to do something in the run of play. I'd rather have Carleton than Busio and it's not even a question.
     
  21. TMBMiles

    TMBMiles Member

    Dortmund
    United States
    Mar 31, 2017
    If there’s one thing I like most about Aaronson it’s the way he feels the pressure and uses his body to make little fakes and buy time and space for himself before the ball gets to him.

    That’s something that should translate very well if he moves to higher tier leagues where the game gets faster.
     
  22. ckajMonet

    ckajMonet Member

    Spurs
    United States
    Jun 8, 2017

    That turn is elementary for him at this point but that was a well weighted pass
     
  23. bballshawn

    bballshawn Member+

    Feb 5, 2014
    Delaware
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Aaronson should be a usmnt lock based on talent alone
     
  24. Brotheryoungbuck

    Jan 24, 2015
    parts unknown
    I’ve liked his play today and in the past, but what position do you play him at? I think if he goes to Germany he will be an 8. Are we going to play two 8s.

    I also think FCD exclusion has been the biggest disservice to Pomykal.
     
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  25. WheezingUSASupport

    Dortmund
    United States
    Aug 28, 2017
    He’s lost since the restart. He has no aggression, and doesn’t know where to be in the attack.

    He has had games where his passing is brilliant, his touch is spot on, and his mental game is much faster, but there’s only been 2-3 of these games.

    But yea that Aaronson assist was amazing. That alone overflowed my cup of US needs for the night.
     

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