vs. the Metrostars we had the following people with yellow cards: Petke Kovalenko Ivanov Nelsen Prideaux Petke and Kovalenko has official warnings due to accumulations prior to the game. With 4 intense games left and 3 being against division rivals, we could be in trouble due to card accumulation. Also, do the cards carry over to the playoffs? I think that once we clinch 2nd place, the game against KC will be meaningless.
I like your optimism. I was wondering about where some of the players were with card accumualtions. As far as I know, card accumulations carry over into the playoffs.
http://mlsnet.com/library/cards.html Current Suspensions Scheduled: Player (team) Sanction Kyle Beckerman (COL) 10/01 Pablo Mastroeni (COL) 10/01 Dema Kovalenko (DC) 10/04 Mike Petke (DC) 10/04 Clint Mathis (MET) 10/05 Richie Williams (MET) 10/05 http://mlsnet.com/about/regulations/
Well, that's good news about cards not carrying over into the playoffs. First things first, though, I guess... So, both Dema and Petke will be out for next Saturday's game against Columbus? -Yikes.
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On the DCU stats page on MLSnet, it says Ivanov has 23 caution points. If this is correct, wouldn't he too have to sit Saturday?
There has been a fair share of debate on whether that suspension will hold or not.. I believe that Ivanov (while on 21 points) went the requisite 3 matches without a yellow, which in turn he gets one point deducted from his season tally - I think they call it some sort of good behavior amnesty.. We'll find out soon enough if he is suspended or not.. David Stokes, you better get yourself ready just in case.....
Even if he had one point deducted, wouldn't he still have 22, which would put him over the limit and this force him to sit?
What is all this points crap? Don't most leagues use something like 5 yellows = 1 match ban, and then you start from 0 again?? I don't get it.
Oh, but you know MLS has to be different Actually, I kind of like it, because it (at least in theory) allows the league to employ a little gradation in the number of points it gives for fouls. Things that are truly egregious, not quite worthy of an outright ban but nasty nonetheless can get a high number of points (4), while others that are less ugly can get fewer (3 or 2--I'm not seeing any this year that only got 1). You can see all the points awarded at the disciplinary page.
I think all of Dema's yellows and all but one of Petke's were for fouls in the fun of play. The only exception I can think of is Petke's for his in-your-face to the linesman in the SJ game, when Ben came right back and scored after SJ had equalized on a questionable off-side call. Contrast this with Marco's over the years. Has he ever gotten one for anything but bitching at the ref?
I notice that almost exclusivelyMLS has been awarding two caution points only for delay of game (or interfering with the GK). Persistent infringement and delaying restart get you 3, as does handling the ball. Anything else (reckless tackle, tackle from behind, tactical foul, dissent) gets you 4. Other leagues do resort to awarding punishment by the number of cards over a given period of time. The English FA discipline procedures are here. Interestingly, they differentiate the number of games' suspension players get for ejections by what offense they were ejected for. And those only start 14 days after the booking (to allow time for appeals, I assume). Are MLS players ever suspended for more than one game? I know players have been suspended for more than one Open Cup match (vide Marco), but what about league play?
Ante Razov could better answer that question. Check his stats for the first three games of this season.
And don't forget Dan Loney's favorite red card, when he took down that little bitch Cienfuegos to open the 2000 season, a.k.a., the End of the Beginning. Sachin