Yanks on Foreign YNTs (1997 and later)

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Apr 15, 2016.

  1. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    does have serious played your hand poorly and now being forced to shoot the moon vibes
     
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  2. slider4CU

    slider4CU Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    United States
    Apr 12, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Soto doesn’t have a history of good decision making. So I believe this story.

    Certainly not terrible news but if we lose a quality prospect at a weak position, it’s not good news
     
  3. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have soured on Soto over the past season. Maybe he will mature and put it all together.
     
  4. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Counterpoint: The kid got himself from a B2 club from for which he did relatively little last season onto an EPL club's books, which I assume doesn't hurt his wages. Still just 20. Maybe he's a gambling man who feels like he's riding a hot hand.
     
  5. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    It also might not be true.
     
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  6. autobus39

    autobus39 Member+

    Jun 28, 2006
    Scranton, PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

     
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  7. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Damn! Everyone will be scouting MLS in the near future for players for their NT. I had no idea Robbie was a dual Nat.
     
  8. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Nobody called me out on this error? Come on, people!
     
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  9. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You technically weren’t incorrect at the time, when they signed him they were an EPL club!
     
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  10. ussoccer97531

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  11. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    If they're offering Akinola the full MNT, and more or less a guaranteed roster spot for 2022 qualifying, that's probably much better than he can get from the U.S. without taking the kind of big step forward he'd need to be a lock in the U.S. top 30. (Not saying he couldn't do it, of course.) Then, of course, there's the high likelihood of an automatic spot in 2026, where you might be playing alongside David and Davies. So, that or roll the dice that you make the U.S. Olympic roster?
     
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  12. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    How can Canada honestly offer that? They aren't lacking in strikers -- David, Cavallini, Larin, some other prospects.

    He may be closer to the CMNT than the USMNT (or not). He may feel more rooted to Canada, since he's lived there.

    But man, if Herdman offered a guaranteed roster spot, I'd be damn suspicious.
     
  13. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    I don't know what they're offering or why! I'm just trying to guess at what, setting aside the possibility that he may just prefer to play for Canada for personal reasons, they might be able to offer that's better than what he could currently expect from the U.S., and how much better it might be, given the opportunities for both programs through 2022. If he's not seen as in the top 6 or so strikers for Canada, his position doesn't seem that much stronger than it does for us, though of course it's all relative.
     
  14. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Oh, I know. I was just working off what you were saying.

    I think there's a lot of implied promises that are never meant to be kept in this kind of recruiting. I'm always a bit worried for the players -- you could see the Johnathon Gonzalez stuff coming a mile away. I'm not shocked he got the token cap and has floundered since.

    I somehow doubt that's how Mexico pitched it.
     
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  15. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    I'd love more visibility into these processes for sure, since what we usually get is mostly after-the-fact, which means ... who knows, really. There's certainly also always at least a small degree of irrationality, however defined, playing into these decisions, depending on the situation.

    It's also possible I'm overthinking things. With the U.S., Akinola probably has little chance of contributing heavily to the 2022 cycle unless he takes a major step forward in production. With Canada, qualifying is less likely, but his chance of participation is surely higher by some measure. Presumably players generally believe that by switching, they gives their new program a better chance of success.

    Good luck to him, whatever he decides.
     
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  16. ussoccer97531

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  17. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    How dare these English kids have the temerity to play for... England!
     
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  18. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    They're dead to me! dead I say!
     
  19. ussoccer97531

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  20. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
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  21. ussoccer97531

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  22. NoHammiesAltidore

    United States
    Jun 28, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  23. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Alejandro Zendejas called in late for Mexico's U23s:

    1324739771541778432 is not a valid tweet id
     
  24. autobus39

    autobus39 Member+

    Jun 28, 2006
    Scranton, PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1349 autobus39, Nov 19, 2020
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    Matt Doyle mentioned in his season in review for the teams that missed the playoffs that "Tata Martino and El Tri have approached" Frankie Amaya.
     
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  25. mike4066

    mike4066 Member+

    Jun 30, 2007
    Chula Vista, CA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would think that he would at least be apart of the Dec camp (if not Jan too)
     

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