Yanks abroad 2025/26 thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by OWN(yewu)ED, Jul 7, 2025.

  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's your priority? The employer that feeds your family or the non-profit you occasionally volunteer for, because that's essentially what a national team is.

    Of course, there's patriotism and the opportunity to market yourself on the world's biggest stage but you don't bite the hand that feeds you.
     
  2. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    The national team is an unpaid volunteer exercise?

    That’s new.

    Also, the idea that playing during legally-mandated, legally-enforced, universally-observed international windows is “biting the hand that feeds you” is shockingly weak-minded and subservient in a way that offends every American sensibility.

    How’s that indentured servitude working out for you?
     
  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We're not in the 1950s where professional players are being paid $20 a week.

    If someone pays you $6 million a year you're going to work pretty damn hard for them.

    That's not indebted servitude.
     
  4. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    The club does not pay for time with the national team.
     
  5. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    Neither do I but on Wikipedia it looks like they have 2-3 players in Egypt, one at Loudoun United and the rest of the pool is domestic based....can't claim to be an expert on the Ethiopian League but I'd be surprised if the USLC isn't a significantly higher level of play
     
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  6. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They are being paid by their club while they are with the national team.
     
  7. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    Cable/satellite TV, streaming services, and the internet have been detrimental to the international game in 2 big ways. First, TV money funneling into the EPL and to a lesser extent other top European leagues has drastically widened the gap between those leagues and the rest of the world. Second, European clubs' personnel can scout leagues across the world digitally without setting foot on a plane--both watching the actual games and running players' metrics through databases to quantify their performance relative to the level they're playing at. In decades past great players outside Europe and Brazil/Argentina would be playing in their domestic leagues and counting on using the World Cup or a youth WC as a showcase to get a big move, but now those same promising young players are on everyone's radar at a young age and are snapped up by European clubs the instant they turn 18/16 depending on passport.
     
  8. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    The disbursement schedule is irrelevant.

    They are obviously NOT being paid for national team work. The national team is paying them.
     
  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Peanuts compared to their club salaries.

    England's players are getting paid £2,000 each tonight, which they donate to the England Football Foundation.
     
  10. eagercolin

    eagercolin Member+

    Metro
    United States
    Aug 25, 2017
    Buffalo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Again, none of what I wrote was a "view," whether mine or any player's. It was a set of basic facts about the relationship between clubs and national teams. Those facts can't be made to disappear through an act of individual will.

    Beyond that, the national team has an obvious longstanding demonstrated interest in fielding players who prioritize their actual professional career over their side gig with the national team, as that describes almost everyone who has played for the team. These guys are quite literally mercenaries. They play in exchange for money.
     
  11. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maloney starting center back Mainz v hoffenheim again. Plz dont say it’s too late……mot exactly busting at seams at center back
     
  12. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Maloney is starting at CB in a back-3 for Mainz. Strong performances will get him into the National Team picture.

    Weah is starting at RB in a 4231 for Marseille. Could be an option at wingback for the US.
     
  13. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Own goal by his colleague early on.
     
  14. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

    Jan 31, 2005
    Birmingham
    Weah bagged a goal in a rout.
     
  15. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very nice goal too, had to deal with a crappy pass but still sent a howitzer, currently 5-1
     
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  16. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Maloney(CB in 3421) was subbed out at the half.

    Wynder continues to make the bench for Benfica

    Weah(RB in 4231) got a goal in a 5-1 win over Nice. Marseille move into 1st. I'd love to see him get consistent minutes at fullback

    1 goal
    25/28 passing
    7 recoveries
    3/4 ground duels
    0/0 fouls/fouled

    FM 8.1(4th)
     
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  17. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've nothing against Maloney but since everyone is constantly harping that Ream is too slow and CCV is also slow and they don't want them it's odd too see a push for another CB that is likely slower than either.
     
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  18. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  19. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Weah is in contention to start at:

    4231: Right FB: with Dest & Freeman
    3421/343: Right WB: with Dest & Freeman
    4231: Right Mid: with Dest, McKennie, & Tillman.
    433/343: Right forward: with Tillman & McKennie

    If we are playing 3421, with the AMs more in a box with the CMs, he fits better at WB. If the attackers,are playing wider,,more of a 343, then, yes. But most times in 3 back, it has looked more 3421 than 343 with wingers.

    ATM Freese, Richards, Jedi, Adams, Pulisic, and Balogun seem like starters no matter the shape. Ream & M. Tillman are close. I would have said Dest two weeks ago, but Freeman is really coming on.
     
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  20. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2 early am BuLi matches that impacts USMNT players.

    I assume Scally retains his starting RWB slot for BMG. Will Gio get match time based on his play for the Nats?

    Tillmann is now recovered from his injury, will he get back his starting slot for Leverkusen given that they have been on a tear?
     
  21. SoccerFanInIA

    SoccerFanInIA Member

    Sporting KC
    United States
    Oct 28, 2021
    So far this morning:

    Tillman starts
    Scally starts, Reyna bench
    Adams starts
    Richards starts
     
  22. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    If we play like we did this last window -- which is a 4231, and it's like we've played most windows -- Weah is almost certainly in contention with Dest for RW. That's what Dest played in the window.

    The other spot he's actually played is the left CAM slot that Pulisic has played. I also imagine he'd be in the mix for LW if we sort of flip the assymetry.

    I think he's probably up for WB in a real 3 ATB as well, but I don't think he's in contention for RB in a 4 ATB without it being an emergency. That's what Scally and Freeman played. Even if we flipped it and it became the FB playing more consistently forward, I don't think Weah is in line.

    Even if we went more traditional of a set up ... it's likely to be Dest and Freeman. I don't think we've seen any sign Poch is going to play Weah there, especially at this point.
     
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  23. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    WEAH plays left because of the eye-thing, remember!
     
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  24. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So far a stroll in the park for our boys! ;)
     

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