Yanks abroad 2025/26 thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by OWN(yewu)ED, Jul 7, 2025.

  1. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    No, investing in the product is exactly the best way to increase revenue.

    Wrexham is a very special situation -- if only all teams could have a movie star owner who gets you a tv show!
     
  2. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    If investing player salaries were the primary way forward, C'ship teams wouldn't be in their current predicament.
     
  3. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What the hell are you talking about? You know more about their rules than they do?
     
  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Many of those aren’t dodging FFP rules. Like, how is getting a government grant a violation? That makes no sense…it’s money, it’s revenue. Or selling stadium naming rights…that, too, is money, revenue. Etc.

    Am I missing something??? Or has Paul lost his mind?
     
  5. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If the goal is to create parity, sure. That’s the purpose of caps here.

    But the caps in Europe are mostly about preventing bankruptcies, instability, and unpaid bills. So if that’s the goal, different salary caps make perfect sense.

    It just depends on the goal.
     
  6. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Aaronson(RF in 343) and Leeds got the 3-0 win over Wolves

    1 assist.
    15/19 passing
    2/3 dribbles
    5 recoveries
    5/10 duels
    0/3 fouls/fouled

    FM(7.8)4th

    Campbell(LCB in 442) and WBA kept yet another clean sheet, this time in a 2-0 win over PNE.

    21/28 passing
    2/5 long balls
    2 blocks
    12 clearances
    4/6 duels
    1/0 fouls/fouled

    WS(7.9)MOTM
     
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  7. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3007 Paul Berry, Apr 18, 2026
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    In terms of naming rights there have been cases of owners using the club's own money to get around FFP. In terms of grants, I don't think non-football revenue should go toward salary caps. Plus Wrexham's owners don't deserve to be subsidized. :mad:

    It should be a level playing field which excludes financial shenanigans. Why do Chelsea get to spend more money on their men's team because they sold their women's team?
     
  8. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Please make sure you guys do it the hard way this time..........Hope you guys go up in play offs.
     
  9. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    The purpose of caps here really are to suppress salaries.

    But there's a nice benefit of parity of opportunity that makes the product much better for fans.

    FFP and the such originally came about to prevent bankruptcies, but they've been used to try and keep certain teams from putting in too much money (like Chelsea or Man City). In the end, though, they tend to perpetuate inequities between teams, not create opportunity.

    But regardless of intent, my comment is the same: the European system doesn't provide any element of parity; in fact it works to create and perpetuate inequal opportunities, and that sucks whatever the reason.

    I really can't believe people are arguing (not you) that a system in which a team is, by rule, restricted from spending as much as another team can, is a good idea for a competitive league.
     
  10. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its been a couple of years since I did this analysis but its along this discussion of finances and competitive balance. MLB which has no salary cap (please don't tell me the payroll tax is akin to a cap) is an great example of how not to do things. And yes I know MLB is raking in money hand over fists but its a house of cards I fear.

    I looked at total roster payrolls for a 10 year period. The data showed that teams with total payrolls in the top 2 in their respective division made the playoffs 80% of the time. The problem most fans use examples of team XYZ making the playoffs spending way less than the big boys (LA, both NY, Boston, Cubs, etc), The point I made is that the system is stupid,. With the imbalanced schedule it makes it very difficult for small market teams in divisions with the big money clubs to compete year in and out.

    As an example the KC Royals don't have to spend towards what the Yankees and Red Sox do. They need to compete financially with the Twins, Guardians, White Sox and Tigers. On the flip side the Orioles don't need to do better than those 5 teams. They DO need to spend more toward the Yankees and the Red Sox.

    All this is a long winded way to say that, in general, soccer has it right. European leagues do have balanced schedules. Now if they would instill some league wide salary mins and max (not based on income) then you'd really have done it right.
     
  11. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    That's a bizarre conclusion.

    I don't like the baseball system, but we don't see the same team win 10 titles in a row anymore in baseball, either.

    The best system by far are the the NBA, NFL, MLS type caps. There can still be dynastic runs by teams but it's not the same teams decade after decade. There's no structural barrier to a team like the San Antonio Spurs getting a title.
     
  12. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's no way. Our record against potential playoff rivals is W4 D1 L9

    We're managed by Phil Neville's assistant at Inter Miami. Our old manager's team has 107 points in the National League.
     
  13. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Tyler came off the bench today as Bournemouth beat Newcastle
    Don't look now but Bournemouth are tied on points with 6th place Chelsea.
    Only 4 points back 5th place Liverpool.

    Bournemouth, Brentford both are in the Champions League fight. Definitely in the European places battle.

    There's a scenario in which 6 teams go to the Champions League.
    Villa have to win the Europa League and then the Prem places have to stack.
     
  14. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3014 TheHoustonHoyaFan, Apr 18, 2026
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    Matarazzo just won the Copa Del Ray becoming he first US manager to win a European trophy, beating Atletico Madrid on penalties.

    He took over Real Sociedad in December and has them playing lights out.

    Cardoso came on for Madrid at 71 IIRC! Looked very calm and composed as usual.
     
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  15. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bournemouth, Brentford, and Brighton are the most perfectly unremarkable teams that just have an absolute method to modern EPL soccer.
     
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  16. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Did we mention that Johnny came on as a sub in the Copa del Rey final today?

    Atletico lost on penalties to Sociedad, though.
     
  17. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mazz is gonna be getting strong managerial looks for his Real Sociedad turnaround. Europe and the UK will be looking at that.
     
  18. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    First American born manager to win a trophy in a top 5 league nation? Is that true? I guess it is.......................
     
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  19. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe Fabian Hürzeler will be next. But not at Brighton.
     
  20. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Balo scores a penalty against Bryan Okoh and Auxerre. Monaco were down 2-0 at halftime but have tied it
     
  21. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  22. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3022 OWN(yewu)ED, Apr 19, 2026
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2026
    BMG are one spot above relegation zone, Scally starting, against Mainz. Gio on bench. Hopefully Parma interest remains for a possible loan next season
     
  23. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It costs $3 a game to watch that on Prime in the UK.
     
  24. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    BMG would love to loan, Neuhaus, their #10 in jersey and second highest paid player even more. Neither him or Gio are getting minutes and Polanski doesn't seem to view them as relegation battlers. Neuhaus's contract runs through 2027 and he is getting paid a salary no one else would pay so a sale is out of the question but maybe someone would pick up part of his salary on a loan.
     
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  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nice positioning and pass at 42s by Aidan Morris. Boro robbed by a dodgy penalty decision.
     
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