Yanks Abroad 2024/25 thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by OWN(yewu)ED, Aug 2, 2024.

  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I could not disagree more... I actually had to stop watching the video because it kept pissing me off.

    Malik Tillman: One of the three said Tillman plays better once he's comfortable... and then all three just kept going on about it. Tony Meola is like "I'm still stuck on 'comfortable' you can't expect to be comfortable with the national team" but Tillman never said "I only play well when I'm comfortable", THEY are are ones who said it about him, and then they spent the next half hour holding it against him??

    Gio Reyna: Charlie Davies said Reyna hasn't done anything for the USMNT since 2023 Nations League. Haji Wright is the one who scored both goals vs Jamaica in 2024. No one pushes back on that, finally enough people must have been flipping out in the chat that one of them read it and said "they're pointing out that Reyna had both assists" to which Davies responds that Reyna was already in the game and the US wasn't scoring therefore Wright gets all the credit, and that it was Tyler Adams who scored in the final. Never mind that Reyna ALSO scored in the final??

    These people aren't even being disingenuous or manipulative for social media engagement which would be bad enough, they just have room temperature IQs...
     
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  2. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The biggest surprises in the Eredivisie... Pepi and Aaronson... Tillman didn't make it because he's NOT a surprise!
     
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  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is why I don't watch talking heads on social media.
     
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  4. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  5. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Ok, after watching Adam’s today I take back anything I said about other DMs displacing him. He was his best self today.
     
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  6. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Donovan: "Tyler Adams in MLS would play 300 games by now."
     
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  7. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    When talking heads have space to fill they create opinions for themselves in order to fill that space. Their opinions should be understood in that context.
     
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  8. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If he is healthy, he is the best at the position for us. But the part before the comma looms large.
     
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  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No relegation worries for Jedi and Taylor as they look towards possible Euro qualification.
     
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  10. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I admit I wasn't listening that closely. I think I expected them to be like "Tillman is killing it! What is Poch doing wrong?!?!?!" And since they didn't, I gave them credit.

    I do think there were good points in there.

    I turned it off before the Reyna segment.
     
  11. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    People don’t like BA’s aesthetic. There’s a lot of talk about getting out-muscled and it overshadows the chance creation.
     
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  12. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Since Tillman's first cap in June of '22 Aaronson's G/A tally has been:

    Uzbekistan 1 A
    Oman 1 G
    Morocco 1 G :geek:
    Grenada 1 G

    Neither player belongs in the first XI. Both should be in the mix to make the roster.
     
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  13. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    I think he’s an ideal player for Pochettino’s system, however he still produces too much waste.
     
  14. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    The outmuscled reduces the chance creation. If he didn't get knocked off the ball so much, he'd be a very good player. He's got good vision. He's got that short, choppy step that would allow him to scoot up the field in control. It's just that in international play, dudes can simply knock him off the ball so that rarely matters.

    It's simply a weakness. But yes, a lot of people have this visceral negative reaction to players who try hard and don't look like the platonic ideal of their player.

    Which all comes back to the inferiority complex our fanbase has. Because there isn't a national team in the world that can win shit without being high effort. Just listen to Poch talk about Argentina -- it's not a shock the World Cup that Messi wins is when he had a midfield of high effort (and high skill, but high effort) dudes behind him -- he's far from his peak, but this is when he wins.

    And we're nowhere near that talented.
     
  15. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Brenden is an attacking mid who has 3 goals and 1 assist in the 2nd division of England. There is no aesthetic, platonic, or biblical issue at play here. He is however an elite presser, which counts for quite a bit in today's game.
     
  16. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    England’s second division is richer and better than all but a handful of leagues.

    Brenden has 4 goals and an assist only 18 games into the season. If he keeps up the pace, that’s a monster season.
     
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  17. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    C'ship is maybe top 10. 8 goals and 2 assists in 36 games is certainly not a 'monster season' for an a-mid.
     
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  18. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who?
    What aesthetic?

    I think Leeds fans appreciate his aesthetic (by which I mean the way he plays). They question his decision making.
     
  19. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    The Kleiban contingent of American fans don't like Brenden's aesthetic. There's a number on here. They disdain high effort players and only want high skill, pretty play.

    And pretty much every fan ever prefers offense to defense aesthetically. And a lot of Brenden's value is defensive.

    There are less Kleiban disciples anymore, as we've seen the players he influenced largely flame out for entirely the reasons you'd expect, but they are out there. The youtube crew all fall into that bucket as well.
     
  20. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh those idiots. The ones that decimated LA Galaxy's academy preferring players to pursue dead end careers in Yurp, with a few notable exceptions.
     
  21. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pepi starts. De Jong on the bench.
     
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  22. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don’t know what kind of goal scoring you see in the Championship but 10-12 is a big season for a non-striker and that’s out of 46 games.

    Not just them, the Scuffed guys and others are pretty obsessed with him losing physical confrontations. I’m less so because he brings a lot to the table and he also wins a lot of fouls. You can’t win fouls if you never go down.
     
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  23. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tillman goal Pepi groin assist



    The Aaronson the People yearn for is Paxten who made the team of the month alongside Pepi

     
  24. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bloody hell, even Ledezma gets one.

    Saibari got the assist for Tillman. Pepi got an assist for Saibari.
     
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  25. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pulisic came out in the 36th minute. Injured?
     
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