Yanks abroad 2023-2024 thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by OWN(yewu)ED, Jun 3, 2023.

  1. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Tillman's going to get a lot of playing time with PSV. He's better than Saibari and Til, his main competition. It's not going to be a hard call for them to pick up that option to buy.

    And it's just a matter of time before Pepi moves ahead of de Jong.
     
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  2. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I'm not sure if Pepi moves ahead of de Jong this season.
    ...........but he's heir apparent.

    I mean, de Jong already has like 11 goals across all competitions this season.

    Pepi will get plenty of time. I'm not worried about it. Fixture congestion will pile up.

    And I'm really happy with Tillman and Dest.

    As far as I'm concerned, Tillman is currently ahead of Reyna on the depth chart. Cuz he's playing and playing well.
     
  3. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    I've watched most of their games. Pepi is already better than de Jong.
     
  4. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    He might be, but de Jong is scoring.

    With PSV in first place..............If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

    Don't get me wrong. I agree with you.
    And as I said, I'm not worried about it. Pepi will get plenty of time, and at some point will assume the mantle.
     
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  5. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    Pepi has more of a field presence for sure. Very proud of that guy.
     
  6. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Tessmann is everything that a CB can't be. 5'5" or whatever Tolkin would be better than Tessmann.
     
  7. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Pepi deserves a start and has shown well, but that’s a ridiculous statement.
     
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  8. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    I just learned recently that Luuk de Jong has more career Eredivisie goals than any other player in the last 40+ years (see here). Until there's a drastic dropoff in de Jong's form, that's going to be a pretty hard player to unseat this season.
     
  9. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I actually hope they don't run de Jong into the ground where he gets injured and then Pepi has too many minutes and too much pressure. Just rotate him in more and plan for him integrate more as the season advances and maybe even try a few two forward formations when needing a goal.
     
  10. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Seems to be the plan. A lot of teams with deep squads rotate surprisingly little. If someone is playing well they ride him hard until he gets hurt or his form drops due to exhaustion. If soccer players were horses it would be considered cruelty to animals.
     
  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    De jong is basically a club legend. He's the 2nd leading goal-scorer in the history of PSV, and that's a long history.

    He's not 39. He's 33.

    There will be some rotation during the dog days of the season. I have no worries about playing time for Pepi.

    Of course Pepi was going there to back up de Jong this season. Everybody knew that de Jong would be the #1. Who didn't? Even if Pepi goes on a torrid goal-scoring run for PSV this season in the chances he gets, de Jong will still be the #1. We knew that going in.

    Next season? We'll see.
     
  12. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    #2537 IndividualEleven, Oct 4, 2023
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2023
    Zendejas(lam in 4231) scored America's 4-0 win over Pachuca.

    1 goal
    3/4 dribble
    6/12 ground duels
    44/53 passing
    1 key pass

    Sofascore(7.9)3rd

    If Koleosho declines, Zendejas wouldn't be a bad call up.
     
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  13. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    I'd rather call up Kevin Paredes than Zendejas or Keleosho.
     
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  14. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    It’s definitely bizarre to me that they play him so much. If the plan was to integrate Pepi, given his price tag, then you’d think that they would regularly bring him in at 60 minutes or so. Or, if they really value De Jong and want to have him available all year, you’d think they’d give him more rest to keep him fresh. He’s logging a ton of minutes for anyone, let alone a 33 yo striker.
     
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  15. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    I think Koleosho is the better talent, but yeah, Paredes has been producing for Wolfsburg for awhile now, at a position where we have very little depth. It’s still insane to me that he didn’t feature for the senior team this summer. Instead, they brilliantly sent him to Argentina with the u20s late, and he barely played.
     
  16. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    Producing would be a stretch. Guy plays 10 minutes every other game or so.
     
  17. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

    Jan 31, 2005
    Birmingham
    And he wasn't very good, but maybe that can be put down to the late arrival.
     
  18. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like Musah will get the start at #6 for Milan in today's UCL clash vs Dortmund. Pulisic will start at his usual Wide Forward slot.

    No word on will there be a Gio sighting for Dortmund. Fingers crossed for 3 Yanks on the field for a UCL clash!
     
  19. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    It actually sounds like Musah may be an 8 and Reijnders will be the deep lying playmaker
     
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  20. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Koleosho would be playing even less if he were on Wolffsburg.
     
  21. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    It’s not a stretch at all. He had 1 goal and 3 assists in 509 Bundesliga minutes last year. I haven’t watched him this year, but he was regularly used as a sub last year, and consistently made an impact when he played. The numbers aren’t eye popping, but there is absolutely no reason he can’t play a similar role for the USMNT that he does in the Bundesliga, and we desperately need somebody who can spell CP and Weah and provide what they do without a big drop in quality.
     
  22. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    The late arrival definitely affected things, but it’s not like he was bad. He drew a couple of fouls and should’ve drawn more. Uruguay were trying to muck up the game, and while he wasn’t outstanding, he did a decent job given the circumstances.
     
  23. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    We have zero clue if he would or not.
     
  24. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Wolfsburg has excellent depth at the wide attacking position. Burnley they aint.
     
  25. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Pepi was significantly involved in both goals for PSV after coming on very late.

    Tilman's dive was a 9.8 in my book. I think his heart beat went up 10 beats from 5 to 15 for this event and he is threatening to overtake Pirlo soon. Must have been the big stage. A scout would say he "plays like" Gio Reyna. I havent followed him much because I don't think he was starting for PSV but he started this one and lasted 90'.
     

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