Yallop encouraged despite frustrating season - SoccerAmerica

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  1. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well this is all wrong

    According to Yallop, the league’s decision to assign rights to USA midfielder Jermaine Jones via a coin flip won by New England dealt the team a double blow at a critical point in the season. In anticipation of landing Jones and to reward 2013 MVP Mike Mageewith a new contract, Chicago had already moved salary off its books and acquired allocation money in several deals that included trading defender Jhon Kennedy Hurtado to Chivas USA, and thus didn’t have much leeway or time to find a replacement for Magee when a postponed surgery ended his season prematurely.
     
  2. Salvatore Giuseppe

    May 4, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago
    ...a postponed surgery...

    So we knew he needed surgery, but were going for a CM anyways? This would make sense if maybe he was blindsided by an injury too late to find a replacement, but doesn't sound like thats what happened.

    And lets not forget, we were promised we weren't putting all our eggs in the Jones basket. That we had other plans.
     
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  3. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    There you go again paying attention…. Knock it off and lower those expectations.
     
  4. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Like I said before he doesn't like to make excuses:
    “But it is what it is and we don’t make excuses and just get on with it. I’m excited about the pieces we’re going to keep and what we’re going to try and do next year.”
    But this sounds like an excuse to me:
    “We were trying to get Jones and we thought we had him,” said Yallop of negotiations and discussions regarding perhaps the top USA performer at the 2014 World Cup. “That’s why we were doing Jones instead of getting another forward and then Mike has to have the surgery and we’re kind of caught on both ends, not having a central midfielder and a striker."
     
  5. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
    In the doghouse
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So that's the excus... er, I mean, the narrative for this season: blame Magee for being injured and the league for not just giving us Jones.

    Someone needs to give Yallop one of these:

    [​IMG]
     
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  6. An_Architect

    An_Architect Member

    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I think everyone can point to the fifth paragraph there (the one which pena pirata quoted above) and say not only is that an excuse, it's also an indication of (one of) Yallop's major failings this season. Beyond tactics etc., he did not have any real plan for the season.

    Fill in the blanks to that quote:

    “We were trying to get Jones and we thought we had him." Fair enough, an excuse, but a legitimate one.

    “That’s why we were doing Jones instead of getting another forward." But also because the other forward's (who sounded bargain bin anyway) deal had already fallen through (based on reports) and they had to do something.

    "Mike has to have the surgery and we’re kind of caught on both ends, not having a central midfielder and a striker." Because he traded away/waived/loaned out all the other forwards and by "not having a central mid" he means "not having a decent central mid", because the crap backline required Larentowizc being played out of position (even before trading away the crap cb he acquired earlier the same season to make room for Jones) so he was left with only Alex, Pause, Ritter, Watson, Cocis and Joya to play center mid.

    What a clustercuss of ineptitude that was.
     
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  7. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    We all dream of a team of center mids, a team of center mids, a team of center mids.
     
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  8. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    It's too bad that no other team in the world has to deal with injuries to important players, or transfer targets who don't pan out. :thumbsdown:
     
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  9. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    We're just that unlucky.
     
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  10. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Chicago is unlucky. First the Fort Dearborn massacre, the Great Fire, the Haymarket tragedy, Iroquis Theater fire, S.S. Eastland, Valentines day massacre, Blizzard of 79, Crash of Flight 191, and now Andy as the owner of the Chicago Fire. Chicago is very unlucky. (Feel free to add anything I'm missing)
     
  11. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Richard Marx?
     
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  12. seamuslush

    seamuslush Member+

    Jun 18, 2005
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    1919 riots
    1909 Water Crib Fire
    The Green Hornet Streetcar Disaster
    Our Lady of Angels fire
    Blizzard of 1967
    1968 riots
    Great Chicago Flood of 1992
    1995 heat wave
    Nery Castillo
     
  13. HeyFireGO

    HeyFireGO Member+

    May 12, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Lron being consumed
     
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  14. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The S.S. Eastland Disaster 1915
    Union Stockyard Fires 1910
    Wingfoot Air Express Disaster 1919
     
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  15. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    First, what the hell else can Frank Yallop say, other than he is "encouraged".

    However, his bellyaching has to stop.


    “'I didn’t think maybe he played as well as he can do, and that’s not a slight,' says Yallop of ...Hurtado."

    No, Frank, that is a slight. That is the very definition of a slight.
    It also happens to be true, Hurtado was not very good.
    The question is why did not play well.


    "Patrick Ianni also came to Chicago with Jalil Anibaba going in the other direction. 'Sometimes a change is hard, he was in Seattle for four years and played very well there.

    “'I still think Jhon’s a good player, it just didn’t quite suit us and we had the opportunity to move a guaranteed contract –- he was going to be guaranteed for next year –- and I felt we were okay and wanted to make changes in that spot, and this trade gave us the room to do that."”


    Change is hard.
     
  16. Sparky98

    Sparky98 Member

    Jun 8, 2007
    Uh oh! Yallop is going to be in trouble. No where in the article did he firmly attach his lips to the McMeddler's @$$ cheeks. Didn't mention how great the owner is or all the positives he does for the team. Sure, the attempt to land Jones may allude to it, but he didn't say "Andrew Hauptman is a great owner." I thought that was the first thing listed in the Fire Media Interview Requirements handbook?
     
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  17. loonixxx

    loonixxx Member+

    Chicago Red Stars
    Aug 28, 2004
    Soccer Limbo
    Club:
    Jagiellonia Bialystok SSA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #18 loonixxx, Oct 20, 2014
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2014
    The Great Hot Dog Famine Of 2014 or was it 2013? I'm getting old. (It's close enough to Chicago to count ;))
     
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  18. hot potato

    hot potato Member+

    Feb 21, 2014
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    the word TEAM is what makes a MLS team successful- just look at TFC after all the hype about adding defoe, gilberto and bradley for the season- they added 3 good players but never truly built a TEAM - they look disorganized and do not have a solid foundation after 9 years in the league- 2015 will be a rebuilding year AGAIN!!

    yallop's thinking that adding 1 DP will change the success of the Fire is pure nonsense-
     
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  19. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yallop is a FVCKIN MORON......
     
  20. kenosis

    kenosis Member

    Mar 31, 2007
    Crook County, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Also, the McRib is gone.
     
  21. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
    In the doghouse
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You forgot "the Chicago Cubs".

    Just sayin'...
     
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  22. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Sorry, also the Black Sox too.
     
  23. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

    May 24, 2003
    Chicago
    The greatest man made disaster of all.

    The Morgan Stanley parking meter deal.
     
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  24. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Uhm...the Superbowl Shuffle! Clearly one of the biggest of all Chicago tragedies.
    https://archive.org/details/SuperBowlShuffle
     

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